Broadcast Sheet engine code...
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I'm wondering if anyone knows what this engine code is exactly for, or what recipe it is comprised of? Is it unique to this lot of cars? The engine is a 1969 440HP.
"Special Cam grind"??? I was told this engine had a "specific" mandated cam grind for the total order.
I don't think anyone has asked or researched this question in detail,...yet.
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Re: Broadcast Sheet engine code...
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919 is the standard engine assembly code for a 69 C body, E86 440 HP automatic transmission with a/c. Sorry, nothing 'special' about it. It's the 375 horse assembly in a Fury/Polara with A/C.
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Ok. Cool.
Then to me the logical question would be to ask the experts to explain the custom grind and how it was different than the standard 375 horse cam, how the grind changed the performance characteristics, the cost, and the additional cost justification for departments that, usually, had to base bids on, typically, a limited budget.
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IF it was a "special cam grind" for a "special order" I believe the ENG would've shown up on the broadcast sheet as "999" Could this have also triggered an M VIN code?
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IF it was a "special cam grind" for a "special order" I believe the ENG would've shown up on the broadcast sheet as "999" Could this have also triggered an M VIN code? I have not seen a "M" code engine VIN that wasn't a: '68 Super Stock Dart/Barracuda or Mr. Norm's GSS 440 Dart '69 440 A-body or 440+6 B-body I have only seen one "999" engine code on a broadcast sheet, engine code in VIN is "L" (1967 c-body)
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To take it out of the *K Fleet realm....
DM27 Y14 car
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Very good Sir, thanks for the DM Broadcast sheet info. That's why I'm asking here. I have my own ideas about what is correct, but wanted to "bounce" this off some of the members at MoParts. This citation, and the other comments from some CHP gentlemen that would know about the "special cam" in CHP cars, as they have access to CHP records most do not,... got me wondering. https://www.allpar.com/squads/history.htmlCitation:Page one;1969Why the 1969 CHP Polara was such a big deal (by Mike Sealey)"For decades, it held the record on the Chrysler test track in Chelsea, MI for highest top end achieved by a factory-built four door sedan (149.6 mph). CHP and LAPD were prized enough customers that Chrysler made specific parts for each department. CHP even had its own cam grind." End citation. It's worth taking a look at the link to Allpar and reading about the Police/Pursuit fleet cars,...although I'm sure most of you already have.
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CHP even had its own cam grind Maybe. But that does not indicate they were installed by Chrysler.
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I think it's just PR hype to make people believe that the CHP had something special.
In reality they did have something special, it was called a Motorola 2 way radio That's true,...and on that note, did you know that CHP radios were specially built by Motrolla for specific CHP use only. Yep, California Highway Patrol radios. They say so on the front. The "special camshaft", could be hype, but the CHP had a lot of "special" requirements of vendors/manufactures and requirements of their own fleet, and mechanics; it's interesting when you start to delve into it.
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Going back to your original post.....
919 is the standard C body 375 horse assembly code with A/C for 1969.
That question has been answered by the documentation provided.
Beyond that, it is up to the “experts” to provide additional documentation as to any special cam grind, requirements, specifications, reasons,, etc for 1969 CHP cars.
Ask them about details, copies of specifications sheets, bid requirements, or to provide copies of documentation.
Until they provide documentation, it’s a great story; but unsubstantiated, unproven and an urban myth.
“Trust....but verify”
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I think it's just PR hype to make people believe that the CHP had something special.
In reality they did have something special, it was called a Motorola 2 way radio That's true,...and on that note, did you know that CHP radios were specially built by Motrolla for specific CHP use only. Yep, California Highway Patrol radios. They say so on the front. The "special camshaft", could be hype, but the CHP had a lot of "special" requirements of vendors/manufactures and requirements of their own fleet, and mechanics; it's interesting when you start to delve into it. Remember that CHP buys more vehicles than anyone. It dictates what other agencies us. It's not surprising about the radios. As for the OP I believe there are other years in which there were police only motors but not in 69
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