Re: Who should I consult on my Hemi Challenger?
[Re: McCandlessboy]
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Master Cylinder came in. What color should it be? I answered that on page 1 of your post, but here's a pic to help you out... Mike
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Re: Who should I consult on my Hemi Challenger?
[Re: dragon slayer]
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This has been an interesting thread. It is also interesting that you have started assembling parts before getting a real assessment of originality. I do not know of the car, but there are so many other items beyond the initial visuals that can cause issues if the goal is to get it right. We found a report in the trunk of the car from Galen. A lot of it aligns with what was posted here. While we had the car in doing some work, we made some changes that were easy to handle. Are the carb original, are the guts of the carbs orig? Are the fenders 70 fenders or later fender? Every part of the motor and auxiliaries are subject to being wrong or improperly assembled. How much of the car is reproduction parts versus original OEM type parts. Having worked with a Hemi builder, you can find plenty of things wrong that might make you just want to leave it alone and enjoy it. I know I won't have every item on it correct. Nor would I mis-represent the car should I ever sell it. I see no reason to not fix the obvious things that are wrong, such as the wheels/master cylinder. It has been fun learning as 90% of the cars I have are Forward Look. Then again does any of this matter to you or the next buyer. Or if money not an object you can go an get this back to full OEM specs. I think for someone wanting a true OEM car, there are plenty of other cars that would be more appropriate for them. I see a ranking of cars, the Elite OEM show winners, the 80% and the 50%. I think this car is in the 80% area, eventually. Problem with auctions is your already down 20% in value, so the car has to appreciate a lot to cover the fees and correction to a car. Depends on what the hammer price was. It is all a matter about what is important to you in ownership of this car, and how far you want to go.
Good luck and I hope this is a very correct car for you. I agree, I like the colors. Thanks! I'm sure as people come to look at the cars, I'll get a lot of feedback. I'm open to it, I'm just trying to learn. Some will hate the fact I bought a car because I just liked the car. Can't make everyone happy. Most have been really cool though.
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Re: Who should I consult on my Hemi Challenger?
[Re: McCandlessboy]
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12/11/17 02:34 AM
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Some will hate the fact I bought a car because I just liked the car. IMHO, it's the only reason to buy/build/own any of these types of vehicles Mike
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Re: Who should I consult on my Hemi Challenger?
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Everyone has opinions on what will happen with the market. My belief is in the forward look era cars have more room to go up than muscle cars. They're simpler to understand, have incredible styling and limited production. Of course I'm bias, because it's what I collect.
I'm one of the most laid back people you'll ever meet. Not much gets to me. I love the car hobby and most of the people in it. It blows my mind that no matter how long you've been doing it, you can learn something. I've learned about mini cars the past few months. They did some crazy promo cars back in the 50's. Now I'm trying to chase those types of things down. I agree ,,,to a point. The problem with Forward look era cars is the crowd that wants/interested in them are getting smaller and smaller. 2nd, finding parts is considerably tougher then muscle car stuff . ( at least they have a decent reproduction market ) So I'm not 100% sure just how much they'll appreciate. My gut tells me sooner than later,, we will see a peak never to be duplicated again. Just for an example, sit back and ck out the crowd at any major car show, of any brand (( current ricer crowd excluded )) a vast majority of the people are closer to the end than they are to the beginning
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Re: Who should I consult on my Hemi Challenger?
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I agree ,,,to a point. The problem with Forward look era cars is the crowd that wants/interested in them are getting smaller and smaller. 2nd, finding parts is considerably tougher then muscle car stuff . ( at least they have a decent reproduction market ) As a car, I don't disagree, but future collectors aren't collecting them as cars, they're collecting them as art. The number of cars on the road 10 years from now will be fractional. So I'm not 100% sure just how much they'll appreciate. My gut tells me sooner than later,, we will see a peak never to be duplicated again.
Just for an example, sit back and ck out the crowd at any major car show, of any brand (( current ricer crowd excluded )) a vast majority of the people are closer to the end than they are to the beginning The best cars will always bring top money. I think the middle pack of muscle cars will really struggle, comparatively. I believe personal connection to muscle cars is what has propped them up, especially in the middle. When that goes away and cars start to be looked at as large pieces of art, rarity will matter. The forward looks cars have dramatic styling and are very limited in production, compared to muscle cars. I could be totally wrong, but I feel at this moment buying a 100k top end restored forward look will be pay off better 5-10 years from now than a similar muscle car.
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Re: Who should I consult on my Hemi Challenger?
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12/30/17 12:59 AM
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But it's so hard to argue with 20 mpg and cruise control and air conditioning for road trips. So I may have a 4 speed b body for local fun and something more practical for the power tour and other road trips. Right but using that logic a new Challenger starts looking better than any 1980's Buick......Just sayn' *Moparo, on that Blue Challenger, very nice respectable example for sure but just because Frank judged it doesn't mean he deemed it "perfect". Even the very best O.E. restored cars still have faults and that one is no exception, example, the small red plastic plug in the Dana should be green plastic (reproductions are all red) and then painted black. So you need to use caution using a restored car as reference for original details.
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Re: Who should I consult on my Hemi Challenger?
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Values are up and down. the Real value is what someone will actually put in your hand tomorrow. after that its all speculation.
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