Re: MILODON GEAR DRIVE
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11/28/17 07:51 PM
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I've never had to fit either gear. That seems weird but if you have to hone them a bit you have to hone them.
I don't think .00018 is much more than it should be. Honestly mine have always fit so I've never measured the press fit.
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Re: MILODON GEAR DRIVE
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11/28/17 11:24 PM
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Heat it and it should slide right on. i would rather have it be a little snug than a little loose when the motor heats up.
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Re: MILODON GEAR DRIVE
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11/29/17 06:24 AM
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Silly question .....what’s temp is safe as to not adversely effect the hardness/metallurgy of the material?
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Re: MILODON GEAR DRIVE
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Silly question .....what’s temp is safe as to not adversely effect the hardness/metallurgy of the year material? just use a emery roll on the inside just a little thats how mick and i done ours
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Re: MILODON GEAR DRIVE
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Silly question .....what’s temp is safe as to not adversely effect the hardness/metallurgy of the year material? I usually heat bearings or races/etc up to 300 degrees Fahrenheit to achieve a slip fit, or 148 C for you metric guys...
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Re: MILODON GEAR DRIVE
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11/29/17 03:22 PM
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Just use the appropriate size brake cylinder hone to get proper press fit.If you heat it to press them on then if you have to remove it can be very difficult.It may galled to the crank and you have a real mess.Add antiseize before installing. This ,also I fill the key slot with bondo or fiberglass resin. after a light smear of vasoline so it dosen't stick. then I save them for future use.
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Re: MILODON GEAR DRIVE
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11/29/17 03:38 PM
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only to find out WAY too tight with approx 0.0018 interference fit. Milodon couldn’t give me an exact answer I was thinking along the lines of 0.0005 - 0.0008. Thanks again Macka [/quote]
.0018 is way too tight. I have never ever had to heat any crank gear or cam gear on anything to make it fit. At +.0018, your shearing metal off to get it to fit. Keep in mind, a crank damper is typically a press on fit, at +.0006 to .0008. That is a positive press because of the nature of the part itself and what it does. A cam gear doesnt need a press fit as such, and the crank gear, well, yes tighter to keep harmonics and such in check, but 99% of them STILL are a slip fit, maybe a slight tap with a brass hammer.Where is a crank gear going to go with a keyway in it? If its too loose, then chain whip and harmonics can affect it for sure, bit it never should need heat to install.
Something doesnt sound right here, unless, the crank is a bit oversized on the snout dimension, and the cam is the same?
If you must make an adjustment, a rod hone is the correct way to do it, with a keyway mandrel. Its the only way to properly keep it straight and round, but I am sure some of the other ways here will " get it done" if thats your decision .
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Re: MILODON GEAR DRIVE
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Honed to the correct size sounds like the way to go! With .0018 you might not even get it on.. might pull the threads out of the crank.. I had to hone 2 of mine.. I set them for .0007 press and it was still tight with no warming them.. once its on and off its a bit easier
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Re: MILODON GEAR DRIVE
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Silly question .....what’s temp is safe as to not adversely effect the hardness/metallurgy of the material? I've always felt that nothing negative "starts" to occur on steel until the 400F range.
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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