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70 Barracuda Gran Coupe Interior Question. #2401790
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I'm looking at buying a Gran Coupe which has the XW call out on the fender tag for the interior. Original seat covers appear to be black with a cloth checked red/orange and black center. It has a white headliner with over head console. Original door panels are gone. Dash pad is the correct black. What would be correct for a black/white interior combo on this car? Haven't seen many Gran Coupes in my lifetime. Thanks.


1968 Barracuda Fastback 318-2BBL 904 2.76 Frost Blue Survivor
1970 Roadrunner 440+6 BBL 727 AT 4.10 SG Dana Blue Fire Metallic
1971 Cuda 340-4 BBL 4spd 3.91 SG Curious Yellow
1972 Barracuda 318-2 BBL 904 AT 3.23 1 Legger Tor Red/White Vinyl Top
2007 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi AT Patriot Blue
2011 Dodge Challenger RT 5.7 Hemi 6spd 392 SG Triple Black
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Re: 70 Barracuda Gran Coupe Interior Question. [Re: TimS] #2401899
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If the interior code is PRXW then you would have the standard leather faced bucket seats in white with white door panels. Carpets, dash, headliner, steering wheel would be black.
If you have the interior code P6XW then you would have the optional premium vinyl bucket seats in white with white door panels. As before, the other trim would be black.

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As pointed out the headliner would be black in a Plymouth Gran Coupe

The standard interior code should be PRXW which is white leather. The door panels would be white with Gran Coupe emblems in them

Re: 70 Barracuda Gran Coupe Interior Question. [Re: TimS] #2402216
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This car has a white headliner which appears to be original.


1968 Barracuda Fastback 318-2BBL 904 2.76 Frost Blue Survivor
1970 Roadrunner 440+6 BBL 727 AT 4.10 SG Dana Blue Fire Metallic
1971 Cuda 340-4 BBL 4spd 3.91 SG Curious Yellow
1972 Barracuda 318-2 BBL 904 AT 3.23 1 Legger Tor Red/White Vinyl Top
2007 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi AT Patriot Blue
2011 Dodge Challenger RT 5.7 Hemi 6spd 392 SG Triple Black
2014 Dodge Charger RT Max AWD 5.7 Hemi AT 305 Billet Silver
Re: 70 Barracuda Gran Coupe Interior Question. [Re: TimS] #2402221
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Originally Posted By TimS
This car has a white headliner which appears to be original.


The seats appear to be like this but with burnt orange and black checked centers.

70 Gran Coupe..JPG

1968 Barracuda Fastback 318-2BBL 904 2.76 Frost Blue Survivor
1970 Roadrunner 440+6 BBL 727 AT 4.10 SG Dana Blue Fire Metallic
1971 Cuda 340-4 BBL 4spd 3.91 SG Curious Yellow
1972 Barracuda 318-2 BBL 904 AT 3.23 1 Legger Tor Red/White Vinyl Top
2007 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi AT Patriot Blue
2011 Dodge Challenger RT 5.7 Hemi 6spd 392 SG Triple Black
2014 Dodge Charger RT Max AWD 5.7 Hemi AT 305 Billet Silver
Re: 70 Barracuda Gran Coupe Interior Question. [Re: TimS] #2402243
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You have to tell us the first two digits of the interior code.

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The two "Houndstooth" interior codes for 1970 Gran Coupe were:
P5X9 which is the Black and White pattern, as shown above.
P5K4 which is the Burnt Orange and Black pattern.

I think the white headliner is correct with the white interior code: XW
Even though the the dealer "Color and Trim Selector" books of the day said the the headliner would be black.

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My 70 cuda has a white vinyl gran coupe headliner. Is yours vinyl also? I have not seen another like mine.

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Originally Posted By fk5hemi
My 70 cuda has a white vinyl gran coupe headliner. Is yours vinyl also? I have not seen another like mine.


Yes it is a white vinyl headliner and I'm pretty sure it is original to the car. It has never had a restoration done on the interior.

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1968 Barracuda Fastback 318-2BBL 904 2.76 Frost Blue Survivor
1970 Roadrunner 440+6 BBL 727 AT 4.10 SG Dana Blue Fire Metallic
1971 Cuda 340-4 BBL 4spd 3.91 SG Curious Yellow
1972 Barracuda 318-2 BBL 904 AT 3.23 1 Legger Tor Red/White Vinyl Top
2007 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi AT Patriot Blue
2011 Dodge Challenger RT 5.7 Hemi 6spd 392 SG Triple Black
2014 Dodge Charger RT Max AWD 5.7 Hemi AT 305 Billet Silver
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Does have the overhead console? I thought all Gran coupes had that with a felt covered hard board headliner.

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Originally Posted By fastmark
Does have the overhead console? I thought all Gran coupes had that with a felt covered hard board headliner.


Yes it has an overhead console as all the Gran Coupes.The few I have paid any attention to appear to have a vinyl headliner.


1968 Barracuda Fastback 318-2BBL 904 2.76 Frost Blue Survivor
1970 Roadrunner 440+6 BBL 727 AT 4.10 SG Dana Blue Fire Metallic
1971 Cuda 340-4 BBL 4spd 3.91 SG Curious Yellow
1972 Barracuda 318-2 BBL 904 AT 3.23 1 Legger Tor Red/White Vinyl Top
2007 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi AT Patriot Blue
2011 Dodge Challenger RT 5.7 Hemi 6spd 392 SG Triple Black
2014 Dodge Charger RT Max AWD 5.7 Hemi AT 305 Billet Silver
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I really thought my car was an odd one with the vinyl headliner, because all the cars I have seen were felt? covered.

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Originally Posted By TimS
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My 70 cuda has a white vinyl gran coupe headliner. Is yours vinyl also? I have not seen another like mine.


Yes it is a white vinyl headliner and I'm pretty sure it is original to the car. It has never had a restoration done on the interior.


Then why does it have orange seats?

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Originally Posted By Morty426
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My 70 cuda has a white vinyl gran coupe headliner. Is yours vinyl also? I have not seen another like mine.


Yes it is a white vinyl headliner and I'm pretty sure it is original to the car. It has never had a restoration done on the interior.


Then why does it have orange seats?



Seats aren't orange they are black with the cloth back/orange(faded red) checked inserts as some Gran Coupes came with. I need to run over to the other garage and get the rest of that interior code. When my friend purchased this car 25 years ago the car came with half done black covered seats that were out of the car.It looks like The previous owner was trying to convert to a Cuda. I'm trying to sort out what it should have.


1968 Barracuda Fastback 318-2BBL 904 2.76 Frost Blue Survivor
1970 Roadrunner 440+6 BBL 727 AT 4.10 SG Dana Blue Fire Metallic
1971 Cuda 340-4 BBL 4spd 3.91 SG Curious Yellow
1972 Barracuda 318-2 BBL 904 AT 3.23 1 Legger Tor Red/White Vinyl Top
2007 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi AT Patriot Blue
2011 Dodge Challenger RT 5.7 Hemi 6spd 392 SG Triple Black
2014 Dodge Charger RT Max AWD 5.7 Hemi AT 305 Billet Silver
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My gran coupe has gold interior and door panels. It has the wood grain inserts in the doors. I have some other door panels from a pile of parts that I have that are white. They still have the same wood grain insert.

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Originally Posted By TimS
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My 70 cuda has a white vinyl gran coupe headliner. Is yours vinyl also? I have not seen another like mine.


Yes it is a white vinyl headliner and I'm pretty sure it is original to the car. It has never had a restoration done on the interior.


Then why does it have orange seats?



Seats aren't orange they are black with the cloth back/orange(faded red) checked inserts as some Gran Coupes came with. I need to run over to the other garage and get the rest of that interior code. When my friend purchased this car 25 years ago the car came with half done black covered seats that were out of the car.It looks like The previous owner was trying to convert to a Cuda. I'm trying to sort out what it should have.


Tim we are just trying to help you up

The orange inserts would have the code P5XV. Since you said it ended in XW we know that's not right.

These cardboard and felt headliners (which all Gran Coupes should gave) failed early. If it has white vinyl on it I would suspect replacement in the 80s or earlier.

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The back side of the vinyl has ink stamps. I will have to check for maybe a date stamp.

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Here are the "Houndstooth" patterns and codes for 1970.

http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/colorAndTrim/1970/70_Barracuda0009.jpg

The link is from Barry Washington's Hamtramck web site..

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Originally Posted By Morty426
As pointed out the headliner would be black in a Plymouth Gran Coupe

The standard interior code should be PRXW which is white leather. The door panels would be white with Gran Coupe emblems in them


Just got to the fender tag again. The code is PRXW. So this car had white leather seats.

I've posted a shot of the headliner too. At a closer look, it sure does not appear original to me? It is vinyl.

Also a shot of the drivers seat in it. Not original either, obviously. So it appears this car on the inside has had work done down thru the years after all.

70 Gran Coupe 007.JPG70 Gran Coupe 009.JPG

1968 Barracuda Fastback 318-2BBL 904 2.76 Frost Blue Survivor
1970 Roadrunner 440+6 BBL 727 AT 4.10 SG Dana Blue Fire Metallic
1971 Cuda 340-4 BBL 4spd 3.91 SG Curious Yellow
1972 Barracuda 318-2 BBL 904 AT 3.23 1 Legger Tor Red/White Vinyl Top
2007 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi AT Patriot Blue
2011 Dodge Challenger RT 5.7 Hemi 6spd 392 SG Triple Black
2014 Dodge Charger RT Max AWD 5.7 Hemi AT 305 Billet Silver
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Yeah that headliner should be black felt. The car should have white leather seats and door panels. Everything else would be black.

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