Re: 452 heads any good for performance?
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Had a set on a 440 that flowed better than my old 906s .. the other good thing is the have the hardened valve seats for unleaded fuels.. Is there any of the hardened seat left after installing 1.81 exh valves?
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Re: 452 heads any good for performance?
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Re: 452 heads any good for performance?
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452 heads can be decent if your willing to spend the money to make them flow. Here is a set I did a few years ago. The customer spent 1200 big ones. At this point I would rather point customers to aftermarket heads. 452 cores are worth 100-200 bucks Yep. If you have to pay someone else to do the work, they won't be cost effective compared to the aftermarket offerings.
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Re: 452 heads any good for performance?
[Re: mopar dave]
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I've got 4 sets here on my basement floor. Put an ad on the Milan Dragway fb page about a year ago. $40/pair. Got 1 guy interested, locally, that was going to come over after his next payday. Still waiting. Got several inquiries for 915's from far reaching states (TX being one).
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Re: 452 heads any good for performance?
[Re: mopar dave]
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Dulcich has a very good porting article on them, worth reading. If you Google it I'm sure you can locate it. EDIT "dulcich mopar porting articles"
Last edited by RapidRobert; 10/09/17 11:45 AM.
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Re: 452 heads any good for performance?
[Re: mopar dave]
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I don't think you'd find many performance head shops to refurbish an old set of iron heads, install all new performance oriented parts, and port them....... For anywhere near what you can buy a set of E-Street heads for.
About the only time I do iron heads anymore is for resto type builds, or where the rules require it.
IMO, the cores only have any value at all if they aren't cracked....... Which is often pretty hard to know until they're cleaned and magged(about $100).
Cleaned, magged cores that check out good are probably worth $150-200...... To someone that really has to have a set.
Unknown cores? $40 max IMO........knowing you're taking a gamble on them.
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Re: 452 heads any good for performance?
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Your wasting your time keeping them.. you wont ever sell them.. all they are doing is taking up good space
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Re: 452 heads any good for performance?
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Those old 452 iron heads are not worth messing with unless you have to run iron. We did a $1,900 set back in 2006 for a 451 stroker. 9.5:1 compression, 91 octane pump gas, solid roller, ported M1 single plane, 950cfm Quick Fuel 4150. It did however make 588 LB-FT @ 4,600 rpm and 621 HP @ 6,100 rpm. So........there is some potential in them.
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Re: 452 heads any good for performance?
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When was the last time you ported any iron heads.. I wont even waste my time to go look at a set now days
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Re: 452 heads any good for performance?
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We did a $1,900 set back in 2006 for a 451 stroker. What would that be in 2017 dollars?
68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
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Re: 452 heads any good for performance?
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When was the last time you ported any iron heads. I do a few sets every year. I did a set this spring, and have 3 more sets here to do now.
68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
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