Alternator over charging........
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Been running the Denso 60 amp for many years wired directly to the battery via a + bulkhead on the firewall and noticed as I was testing a carb that it's at 15.2 volts. Do I need to add a resistor or something or is it going south.........used to be 14.7........... Thankxxx.........
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Re: Alternator over charging........
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The engine has a few good grounds and the sense wire and I guess it's the keyed wire are hooked to buses I wired in a few years ago and are fine plus most of the factory wires are gone. Starting to think it's the 10 year old gel batteries as I need to put it on a charger more than ever........too busy to mess w/it now but maybe over the weekend I can mess w/it some more...........
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Re: Alternator over charging........
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I'm assuming that you are using an external regulator... The regulator needs one wire that reads the same as battery voltage, and it must be "switched power". The other wire is a varied ground to "turn on" the windings, based on reference voltage(the switched power wire.) But wait- there's more... The regulator NEEDS a good case ground to function correctly. This is often overlooked. The mounting holes are purposely cone shaped to dig into the firewall metal. Over time it can corrode. Or maybe the beast just shook it loose.
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Re: Alternator over charging........
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Ya Cab mentioned something similar about how the alt. will over compensate for weak batteries so I will test my new 1150 for the Dart and pay attention to see if it gets back in the 14.5-14.7 range like it normally runs........thankxxx........ Low batteries can fool you but to check them you need to test the amps also. The vol reg is set off volts so if the battery volts of the reg volt sense wire is low the reg will give it more field voltage to put out more but it still wont read a high volt reading. Say your battery is low and reading 11.9 volts when it starts well then the reg will give the field more volts for more alt output and the alt may now put out 60 amps but the battery volts may now read 12.8 and climbing slowly. But it will only go to the vol reg setting which will be around 14.5 or so according to the outside temp. It wont push the volts way up with low batteries but it will show alot more amp output of the alt until it reaches the voltage setting of the reg. I had a bad battery where the voltage reading at the battery would not go over 12.6 even when I full fielded it. Then when I read the alt output it was putting out 50 amps at an idle but the volts would not climb up because the battery was bad. It would take in amps but would not bring the voltage up. My point is a low battery wont show a voltage reading over the normal reading of around 14.5 as it will show alot of amps charging the battery back up but the voltage wont go past the normal readings. And as the battery volts comes back up close to normal readings the amps will start to drop back to normal readings. To me yours sounds like either a low voltage reading on the voltage sense wire or the reg in the alt is going bad. Ron
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Re: Alternator over charging........
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If you have AGM batteries it is best to keep your charging voltage under 15.
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Re: Alternator over charging........
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Mine are old Orbital gel batteries........
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Re: Alternator over charging........
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They are actually AGM not gel, common misunderstanding.
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Re: Alternator over charging........
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Your batteries are ten years old, they are trying to say goodbye lol.
If you don't drive it for extended periods of time you might have to put a charger on it occasionally. A short drive will often not let the alt do its job long enough to put back in what you took out by starting it. In addition as batteries get older they will lose more voltage at rest than when they were new. Your batteries have a few more years left if you just keep doing what you are doing,
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