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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #2394938
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Spoke about this with my crew chief,a gear change would put me in a happy spot for a cheap church mouse,,,LOL.I don't want to change anything just yet as that 8 second slip will come with just a few more lbs! whistling
I'm at a whoppin 6 lbs at 6% OD. work


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #2394949
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You love to do things the hard way. Costs money to go fast, as you know. What we are saying is that do it right and it will be consistent.

Think about it - you had that converter with the old combo, AFAIK. Now the combo is totally different, do you expect the converter to behave the same? Converter should always match the combo. It's gotta be an uphill battle trying to tune a motor that is fighting itself. I'll bet your data curves will look completely different with the right converter.

Look at the pics you posted in your other thread - top left, the first two data inputs - engine speed vs. driveshaft speed, maybe kinda important ones? The first pic on the 9.79 pass shows a ratio of .52%!! According to your readout there, the DS was spinning at over 13K RPM. Thank Marty for doing a good job balancing that thing.



Now look at the 2nd pic, the ratio is more than 20% higher and see how much it picked up. Imagine if it was up in the 90% range...might not be possible to get it working that efficiently but you get the idea.



Don't mean to talk out of school here, just trying to point out that the blower does not overcome all maladies.


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Man, I sit corrected. Some of us look really hard at the fine numbers and find the real problems as opposed to someone like me that glosses over and runs in circles.
Here's a car joke/stab: "What's the difference between stock car racer achievements and Drag racers achievements?
"Stock racers run around in circles looking for the finish line and drag racers shoot straight to it"

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #2395025
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Originally Posted By fullmetaljacket
If you breach the 8 mark you might acquire a new alias for your self to be called 8Ball. 8Ball in the corner pocket.


I will wear it like a badge of honor.Looking forward to the new licence plate bracket as well.

Just might have that air brushed on the rear panel,,,,

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: hemi-itis] #2395068
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That there is a super cool character logo. I can arrange a small color painting on the deck lid for you once you get there. Perhaps at that time, you can lease me some ET on a monthly basis.LOL.

License plate bracket? I would keep it all hush hushhhh and have a pool stick chalk at hand to hit it in the corner.

Itis, you ever heard of the two 64' SF/X supercharged Chargers? Basically, two 330 Coronets called Chargers.

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I wannna know why driveshaft rpm would show higher than engine rpm. Something is sorta out of whack there.


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Originally Posted By fullmetaljacket
That there is a super cool character logo. I can arrange a small color painting on the deck lid for you once you get there. Perhaps at that time, you can lease me some ET on a monthly basis.LOL.

License plate bracket? I would keep it al hush hushhhh and have a pool stick chalk at hand to hit it in the corner.

Itis, you ever heard of the two 64' SF/X supercharged Chargers? Basically, two 330 Coronets called Chargers.


Spoke with Bud Fauble at length about them.After his 1st nitro explosion,he told them he would NEVER drive anything on nitro again!!
Bud was a very cool dude and light on his feet! RIP BUD,,,

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: RMCHRGR] #2395183
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That could be the burnout for all we know. We can't see where the pointer is during the run on the screen. I don't think that is possible at the stripe. Fuel pressure goes down below my liking with blown gas.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #2395248
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I should engage my brain before posting next time. If the converter was slipping DS speed would be lower than engine speed. Burnout is probably correct or tire spin somewhere during the run. Ask Al how much the tires moved on the rims by the end of the day.

Might be good to know at what points the data was taken from though since both screen shots show the DS speed higher than engine speed.

Sorry for the misinformation and for getting off track.


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Screenshot was at the stripe.I never programmed the DS sensor,still tryin to figure it out.As far as the tire movement,I will try DVWs rec with the permatex.If that fails I will switch the street tires with the slicks so the beadlocks are with the slicks.
PF is set at 7,will drop to 6 in high gear.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: RMCHRGR] #2395493
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Originally Posted By RMCHRGR
You love to do things the hard way. Costs money to go fast, as you know. What we are saying is that do it right and it will be consistent.

Think about it - you had that converter with the old combo, AFAIK. Now the combo is totally different, do you expect the converter to behave the same? Converter should always match the combo. It's gotta be an uphill battle trying to tune a motor that is fighting itself. I'll bet your data curves will look completely different with the right converter.

Look at the pics you posted in your other thread - top left, the first two data inputs - engine speed vs. driveshaft speed, maybe kinda important ones? The first pic on the 9.79 pass shows a ratio of .52%!! According to your readout there, the DS was spinning at over 13K RPM. Thank Marty for doing a good job balancing that thing.



Now look at the 2nd pic, the ratio is more than 20% higher and see how much it picked up. Imagine if it was up in the 90% range...might not be possible to get it working that efficiently but you get the idea.



Don't mean to talk out of school here, just trying to point out that the blower does not overcome all maladies.


I will get the DS sensor programmed before my next outing.Then we can talk about the tight street converter work


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I've heard that blow dryers like a little more tightness in the convertor. Perhaps that is say so, I don't know since I've never had such a beast.

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Your back half 660-1320 is with-in .03 of my 9.04 pass with the same mph gain. The front half will get you there with very little power increase. Looks like you're already pretty close to 925hp.
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Originally Posted By hemi-itis
Screenshot was at the stripe.I never programmed the DS sensor,still tryin to figure it out.As far as the tire movement,I will try DVWs rec with the permatex.If that fails I will switch the street tires with the slicks so the beadlocks are with the slicks.
PF is set at 7,will drop to 6 in high gear.


Unless I missed something, why are you NOT screwing the tires to the rims...........


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PF is set at 7,will drop to 6 in high gear.


If you mean fuel pressure, the data shows 3. something.

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Itis. Is the first graph in the burnout box and the second graph through the stripe after shifting into neutral? That is low fuel Pressure.

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Originally Posted By fullmetaljacket
Itis. Is the first graph in the burnout box and the second graph through the stripe after shifting into neutral? That is low fuel Pressure.


That was at the stripe,last pass om pump gas.That was at the stripe when I was on the binders it went 1,2,1,2 eek After I turned around on the return it came back enough to get back to the pit.I was outta fuel......
The other screen shot It went from 7 to 6.5.

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I'm thrilled that I lost 200 lbs boogie 9.3s with 6/7 lbs of boost seems great.What will 10lbs do for me work


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Originally Posted By Thumperdart
Originally Posted By hemi-itis
Screenshot was at the stripe.I never programmed the DS sensor,still tryin to figure it out.As far as the tire movement,I will try DVWs rec with the permatex.If that fails I will switch the street tires with the slicks so the beadlocks are with the slicks.
PF is set at 7,will drop to 6 in high gear.


Unless I missed something, why are you NOT screwing the tires to the rims...........


Dom,I have several friends that are faster than me that don't screw the rims.DVW is a perfect example.Over the winter I will break these slicks down and clean them to re=do with the permatex Doug said to use.If I still have an issue then I will switch the rear rims around.


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