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Re: which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? [Re: 6PKRTSE] #2378332
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Originally Posted By 6PKRTSE
I have the regular ole Mopar Performance Crate Hemi heads on my 528". They flowed around 426 as cast on our flow bench but it still made 853/697 with only 10.5:1 on pump gas, so I am happy enough with them for now.

iagree Same on my 572" hemi. Just the regular old MP (pre Edelbrock castings) aluminum heads CNC ported by MCH. Making somewhere in the neighborhood of 850 hp N/A at 11:1 on pump gas.


CHIP
'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
Re: which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? [Re: DoubleD] #2378366
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Originally Posted By DoubleD
here are the eddy head specific pistons - these are 13-1 customs


Who makes those? I'm gonna need a set for my eddy heads!


68 Dart GTS "HEMI" 10.30 @ 131 pump gas street car 3780#
69 Roadrunner 511 six pack 10.92 drive to track street car
Re: which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? [Re: sixpacksteve] #2378449
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Could you guys detail the builds of the engines that are making 750+ HP with the Eddy or mopar heads? Much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Re: which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? [Re: rickseeman] #2378475
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Originally Posted By rickseeman
Originally Posted By Transman
Correct me if I am wrong but the only Edelbrock hemi head needing special piston notching is the latest edelbrock head with the big intake - the exhaust has a different guide angle requiring the special notch. The earlier edelbrock head sold through Mopar Performance ( with conventional valve train oiling ) does NOT need the special exhaust notch.


Just because the valve angle is different doesn't mean that you need different pistons, or that it's going to cause you problems, etc. This isn't the 60's. Back then people would shave the heads and deck the block to get more compression. This would give you more compression but would decrease the piston to valve clearance. Most engines that people put together now are strokers. With a stroker you can get all the compression you want. Strokers take a lot less dome on the piston. Your street/strip application will probably be for pump gas and not have much dome. My guess is if you check your valve to piston clearance you will find you have a mile.

When using Victor Jr's you do have to check the intake valve to bore clearance if you are using a small bore.


Tell that to my buddy with +$2600 in two sets of pistons already, bet he throws one at you!

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'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

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'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? [Re: DoubleD] #2378551
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Originally Posted By DoubleD
here are the eddy head specific pistons - these are 13-1 customs

DoubleD would you mind sharing whose pistons those are and the model number. I have those same heads and will be in the market for pistons.

TIA

Re: which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? [Re: DUSTER_340] #2378704
09/29/17 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted By DUSTER_340
Originally Posted By DoubleD
here are the eddy head specific pistons - these are 13-1 customs

DoubleD would you mind sharing whose pistons those are and the model number. I have those same heads and will be in the market for pistons.

TIA


The pistons are full customs designed by Best Machine - built by CP Pistons

Re: which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? [Re: Lost in life] #2378722
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Originally Posted By Lost in life
Could you guys detail the builds of the engines that are making 750+ HP with the Eddy or mopar heads? Much appreciated. Thanks in advance.


http://raybarton.com/parts/index.php/engines/single-plane-street-series-hemi.html

I think he uses Edelbrock heads on these.


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Re: which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? [Re: DoubleD] #2379058
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Thanks Best Machine is in my area , and I was planning on using them to do all my block work.

Re: which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? [Re: sixpacksteve] #2379873
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I have CNC ported Indy SR's on mine. No results yet.

Re: which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? [Re: Lost in life] #2379931
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Originally Posted By Lost in life
Could you guys detail the builds of the engines that are making 750+ HP with the Eddy or mopar heads? Much appreciated. Thanks in advance.


Here is mine - should have dyno results very soon
https://www.facebook.com/pg/bestmachineracingengines/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1460586160663729

Re: which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? [Re: sixpacksteve] #2380143
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DD, that is a thing of beauty there!


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Re: which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? [Re: DoubleD] #2380210
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Originally Posted By DoubleD
Originally Posted By Lost in life
Could you guys detail the builds of the engines that are making 750+ HP with the Eddy or mopar heads? Much appreciated. Thanks in advance.


Here is mine - should have dyno results very soon
https://www.facebook.com/pg/bestmachineracingengines/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1460586160663729


I'll be looking forward to seeing the results on that one! What's the cam specs?


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69 Roadrunner 511 six pack 10.92 drive to track street car
Re: which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? [Re: Lost in life] #2380501
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Originally Posted By Lost in life
Could you guys detail the builds of the engines that are making 750+ HP with the Eddy or mopar heads? Much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

572" hemi, KB block, MP heads cnc'd by MCH
11:1 CR for pump gas, Callies crank, Oliver steel rods, Diamond pistons
276°/284° at .050", .672"/.651" lift solid roller. Very mild lobes to be easy on parts.
DLI roller rockers, Barton single 4500 intake, 1200 cfm dominator
Has run 9.54 at 140.4 mph at 3800+ lbs. on just the motor and pump gas. Somewhere in the 850 hp ballpark.

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CHIP
'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
Re: which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? [Re: DoubleD] #2383351
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Originally Posted By DoubleD
Originally Posted By Lost in life
Could you guys detail the builds of the engines that are making 750+ HP with the Eddy or mopar heads? Much appreciated. Thanks in advance.


Here is mine - should have dyno results very soon
https://www.facebook.com/pg/bestmachineracingengines/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1460586160663729


Dyno results are in

https://www.facebook.com/bestmachineraci...ZvhhNwjJ8ZQX3W4

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Re: which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? [Re: sixpacksteve] #2383484
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Not to be crass...but approximate cost for that build?

Re: which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? [Re: Lost in life] #2383489
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Can i guess? 20k+


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Re: which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? [Re: sixpacksteve] #2383491
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That is probably a pretty safe bet...

Re: which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? [Re: Lost in life] #2383539
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Originally Posted By Lost in life
Not to be crass...but approximate cost for that build?


Speed cost money son - how fast you wanna go!

All I will say it is worth every dollar I spent - Best Machine used nothing but the best parts even on the small parts - I discussed what I wanted with Chuck before starting - it was a simple request a 572 with 800HP run on 110 fuel - using the the big valve eddy heads - 2 AFB's and the new Mega Block I had - I left everything else up to him - He delivered a big torque and durable HEMI - it could make more HP with a different intake and bigger carbs I am pretty sure of that - but I wanted in-line AFB's for NSS class racing. Overall I would say Best Machine delivered above my expectations

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Re: which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? [Re: sixpacksteve] #2383556
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What intake manifold did you end up with?


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Re: which 426 alum.Hemi Heads to get? [Re: sixpacksteve] #2383561
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