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Re: Locked Dizzy and starting ? [Re: Kindafast] #2372976
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Leaving out starter-kickback as solvable: what engine idles better with full advance than partial advance?
Engines that idle above 2,000 RPM.


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Re: Locked Dizzy and starting ? [Re: Kindafast] #2372993
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You over simply - depends on trans type, if auto it depends on stall speed, what carburetor name, what camshaft, other factors. My race car idles at 1500 in or out of gear.
To make a blanket statement isn't accurate.

Do I believe a locked distributor is correct for all cars - absolutely not.
To criticize a guy for doing it and saying he doesn't know how to tune is not fair either.

Re: Locked Dizzy and starting ? [Re: Kindafast] #2373001
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1500 with light springs? The advance is just about all in anyway. Try 800, with a big roller, in gear at 18 degrees initial.


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Re: Locked Dizzy and starting ? [Re: Kindafast] #2373211
09/19/17 10:14 AM
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I've never had an issue cranking my 14.5:1 446" wedge or my 11:1 572" hemi w/ locked out timing. As long as your battery, starter, and the wiring b/t the 2 are good, you should be fine. Glad you found the issue!

Guess everyone running a crank trigger doesn't know how to tune a motor. LOL, gimme a break.


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Re: Locked Dizzy and starting ? [Re: polyspheric] #2373246
09/19/17 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted By polyspheric
Leaving out starter-kickback as solvable: what engine idles better with full advance than partial advance?
Engines that idle above 2,000 RPM.


What engine idles worse with full advance at idle? Even my stock lo-po 440 idled great with full advance at 700rpm idle when I tried it just for fun.

Re: Locked Dizzy and starting ? [Re: Kindafast] #2373252
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most racers spin it over and hit the ignition

Re: Locked Dizzy and starting ? [Re: Kindafast] #2373526
09/19/17 07:13 PM
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Thanks again guy's , I have been racing a long ass time but never thought of the ignition cutoff switch. Duhh LOL . I installed a manual MSD switch this afternoon and it works great. Damn toggle switches all over my car but it works great. I really think the main issue was the battery. It is funny how it still holds 12.7 volts but you can tell it is weak spinning my engine over. I put another high amp battery in it and it spins over great. Everything wears out I guess !!


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Re: Locked Dizzy and starting ? [Re: Thumperdart] #2373606
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Originally Posted By Thumperdart
I run 2 Orbital gel batteries and one is from 07 and still rocks........... biggrin
off topic. I love my orbital however they are no longer being made. 😨

Re: Locked Dizzy and starting ? [Re: 70dusterjohn] #2373607
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Originally Posted By 70dusterjohn
How do you wire one to turn over and the ignition switch ?
A seperate normally closed switch in series with the ign (blue/yellow ECU main feed wire works for this). Press it to disable the ign/crank with the key/let your thumb off of it while still cranking.


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Re: Locked Dizzy and starting ? [Re: 540challenger] #2373667
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Originally Posted By 540challenger
Originally Posted By Thumperdart
I run 2 Orbital gel batteries and one is from 07 and still rocks........... biggrin
off topic. I love my orbital however they are no longer being made. 😨


I heard you can get em on line but never checked......


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Re: Locked Dizzy and starting ? [Re: Kindafast] #2373693
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15-1 572, crank trigger at 32 degrees. Cranks with ignition on, starts instantly. Same factory starter for 550 passes.
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