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Re: E-body trunk torsion springs [Re: cudaized] #237279
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Passenger side.

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Re: E-body trunk torsion springs [Re: cudaized] #237280
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Turn the key to open the trunk... and the trunk lid opens this far.
Too much spring tension and it will pop up fully open (you don't want that).

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Re: E-body trunk torsion springs [Re: cudaized] #237281
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Second version of the 1970 trunk lid.

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Re: E-body trunk torsion springs [Re: cudaized] #237282
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Nice car Ola, thanks for the CD.

My 1971 Challenger Convt. early built car with a luggage rack uses one bar. My 1971 Challenger Hardtop Begining of June built car that came with a wing uses one Bar. At Carlisle a friend that has a 1971 Challenger that was built about 8000 cars behind mine told me he has the two bar system. I do not know the reasoning of why but Chrysler did start to change over to 1972 model parts around this time. My June built Challenger has many 1972 type parts. Slotted bumpers, 1972 trunk floor pan, etc. If this thread sticks around I will look at both my Nov. built 1971 Cudas and see what is in there trunks for a trunk bars.


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Re: E-body trunk torsion springs [Re: burdar] #237283
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I have a 71 cuda vert with a 1-1971 build date and it has one spring. I have no wing nor do I have a luggage rack. The drivers side is in the most forward slot and the passengers side goes up into a notch. My passenger side has a different bracket than the others shown.


Re: E-body trunk torsion springs [Re: cudastruction] #237284
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Is there a tool for removing these bars from the holes? I had a @#$% of a time on my 64 Polara - I ended up cutting them out and then re-welding them back in (the mounting plates not the bars)!!!


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Re: E-body trunk torsion springs [Re: ramcharger1964] #237285
09/10/09 08:28 PM
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Also of note is the fact that Challenger torsion bars will not interchange with Cuda. They are 44 inches long on the straight measurement.
Cuda are 39 inches.
This is a 71 Challenger decklid, May SPD car, no wing or rack, has one rod and it is heavier than a Cuda rod.
Rod is in the third slot in, possibly because a Challenger lid is heavier than Cuda
Also Challenger htp mounting brackets are different than Cuda htp.

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Re: E-body trunk torsion springs [Re: mccannix] #237286
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71 Cuda hardtop, June SPD, factory wing, rod third slot in.
Mounting bracket is same as Ola's 70 Htp.

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Re: E-body trunk torsion springs [Re: mccannix] #237287
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70 Cuda convertible, Nov SPD, with factory luggage rack, 2 rods, third slot in.
Obvious difference in convertible mounting bracket.
Three different brackets so far.
Anyone have a picture of Challenger convertible bracket to see if it is different again?

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Re: E-body trunk torsion springs [Re: mccannix] #237288
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One from my 70 Challenger convertible

Re: E-body trunk torsion springs [Re: gygeneral] #237289
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Thanks Norm. E-body convertibles appear to share the same mounting bracket, as backed up by the parts books.

Re: E-body trunk torsion springs [Re: burdar] #237290
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Pics. of my "un-restored" '70 Challenger T/A

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Re: E-body trunk torsion springs [Re: B5TA] #237291
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Re: E-body trunk torsion springs [Re: B5TA] #237292
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my 05/26/71 trunk spring, no spoiler, original trunk lid

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Re: E-body trunk torsion springs [Re: burdar] #237293
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Quote:

Not only is that a 71 and it has two springs but...the orange body plugs for shock access, aren't on the top of the trunk pan. I thought 70-71 had the plug on top and 72-74 had it on the side. Maybe that's just on the Challengers?






That car started life as a 70 (2 springs!), owner wanted a 71. Trunk pan was aftermarket and pre-drilled for shock bolt holes.

Re: E-body trunk torsion springs [Re: BarrsRestoration] #237294
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November built car (B05) unrestored car with original lid and no spoiler/luggage rack.







'70 Super Bee 440 6 pack 4-spd 4.10 Dana N96 EB5
‘70 Super Bee 440 6 pack 4-spd 3.54 Dana FC7
‘70 ‘Cuda 440+6bbl 4-spd 3.54 Dana N96 EB5 V1W

Re: E-body trunk torsion springs [Re: 70440+6bbl] #237295
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November built car (B05) unrestored car with original lid and no spoiler/luggage rack.












Rear window defroster? WOW!!! We don't see those around here. That looks to be in awesome condition for a Northern car.

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Re: E-body trunk torsion springs [Re: BarrsRestoration] #237296
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Thanks, it is one of the cleanest '70 'Cudas that I have owned, hard to believe considering it was a life long Buffalo, NY car (with a 2 year stint in California:-)!




The trunk floor was coated with some black goop many years ago and that surely helped preserve the trunk floor. Five cans of WD40 later, the original paint was looking pretty decent


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‘70 Super Bee 440 6 pack 4-spd 3.54 Dana FC7
‘70 ‘Cuda 440+6bbl 4-spd 3.54 Dana N96 EB5 V1W

Re: Mopar trunk torsion springs - Torque adjustment? [Re: 70440+6bbl] #237297
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So for adjusting the decklid tosion bars, which holes create more torque, the ones furthest to rear or the ones furthest toward the front?

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Re: Mopar trunk torsion springs - Torque adjustment? [Re: Dodge Don] #237298
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