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Shell zinc additive at Autozone #2370335 09/13/17 08:05 PM 09/13/17 08:05 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,663 Florida G GMP440 OP top fuel
GMP440 OP top fuel G Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,663 Florida	Saw this last week at Autozone. Has anyone tried this zinc additive?

Re: Shell zinc additive at Autozone [Re: GMP440] #2370339 09/13/17 08:09 PM 09/13/17 08:09 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,929 Kirkland, Washington Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts
Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,929 Kirkland, Washington	No linky to zinky.

Re: Shell zinc additive at Autozone [Re: GMP440] #2370341 09/13/17 08:16 PM 09/13/17 08:16 PM
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GMP440 OP top fuel G Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,663 Florida	Shell zinc additive

Re: Shell zinc additive at Autozone [Re: GMP440] #2370344 09/13/17 08:21 PM 09/13/17 08:21 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,929 Kirkland, Washington Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts
Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,929 Kirkland, Washington	I've never seen that one. Odd that it has such a 'retro' look to it! Google it, might be a good product, Shell knows what they are doing..

Re: Shell zinc additive at Autozone [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #2370349 09/13/17 08:37 PM 09/13/17 08:37 PM
Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 4,491 Morristown Tn. 7 71birdJ68 master
71birdJ68 master 7 Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 4,491 Morristown Tn.	I read a good article by a Shell engineer that said to much zinc will eat up parts, especially copper.

Re: Shell zinc additive at Autozone [Re: 71birdJ68] #2370352 09/13/17 08:46 PM 09/13/17 08:46 PM
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ahy master A Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN	I tried to look it up but AZ site was offline. In general, a FT cam likes 1200-1500 PPM zinc. Standard new(er) car oil has 600 PPM. Need to do the math based on the additive specs to determine if it can get "standard" car oil into the 1200 - 1500 PPM range with the additive.

Re: Shell zinc additive at Autozone [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #2370353 09/13/17 08:47 PM 09/13/17 08:47 PM
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GMP440 OP top fuel G Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,663 Florida	Shell additives.

Re: Shell zinc additive at Autozone [Re: GMP440] #2370354 09/13/17 08:47 PM 09/13/17 08:47 PM
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BDW master Joined: May 2005 Posts: 4,956 Florida	Seems to be low concentration, 12oz to only do 5qt? Go to Advance Auto and get the Lucas zinc, 16oz is good for 3 oil changes.

Re: Shell zinc additive at Autozone [Re: BDW] #2370361 09/13/17 09:05 PM 09/13/17 09:05 PM
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GMP440 OP top fuel G Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,663 Florida	Found info on the concentration. Shell claims 2000ppm. Here is the link. https://www.shellx100oil.com/faqs

Re: Shell zinc additive at Autozone [Re: GMP440] #2370365 09/13/17 09:14 PM 09/13/17 09:14 PM
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Supercuda About to go away Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours	Originally Posted By GMP440 Found info on the concentration. Shell claims 2000ppm. Here is the link. https://www.shellx100oil.com/faqs Nope, that's for their oil Try this https://www.shellx100oil.com/product-page/shell-x-100-zinc-additive-12-oz no data though They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.

Re: Shell zinc additive at Autozone [Re: Supercuda] #2370381 09/13/17 09:34 PM 09/13/17 09:34 PM
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GMP440 OP top fuel G Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,663 Florida	Sorry. My bad. I should have spotted that. Maybe do a phone call or email to their people.

Re: Shell zinc additive at Autozone [Re: GMP440] #2370384 09/13/17 09:36 PM 09/13/17 09:36 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 16,844 Phoenix - surface of the sun nomore65BelvJim I Live Here
nomore65BelvJim I Live Here Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 16,844 Phoenix - surface of the sun	Thanks for posting this info. Always good to have options.

Re: Shell zinc additive at Autozone [Re: 71birdJ68] #2370401 09/13/17 09:57 PM 09/13/17 09:57 PM
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71birdJ68 master 7 Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 4,491 Morristown Tn.	Go to General Aviation News web site and look for a red plane rolling over on its back which is the July 20th issue No, 14, and read the article by Ben Visser, which is on page 12, it's very Informative.

Re: Shell zinc additive at Autozone [Re: GMP440] #2370473 09/13/17 11:51 PM 09/13/17 11:51 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 16,844 Phoenix - surface of the sun nomore65BelvJim I Live Here
nomore65BelvJim I Live Here Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 16,844 Phoenix - surface of the sun	Thanks for the info so I guess I'll keep the silver and copper internal parts to a minimum and the ppm to 1400. link to above page

Re: Shell zinc additive at Autozone [Re: GMP440] #2371198 09/15/17 12:22 PM 09/15/17 12:22 PM
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360view Moparts resident spammer 3 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 8,162 USA	So former Shell Oil engineer Ben Visser's article in July 20 2017 General Aviation News page 12 leads to the conclusion that a bit less than 1400 ppm of ZDDP is optimum for wear. But his comments on non-zinc detergents in some automotive oils burning up and leaving ash deposits that cause pre-ignition pinging also trigger some thoughts. Which automotive rated oils have the lowest levels of ash deposits?

Re: Shell zinc additive at Autozone [Re: 360view] #2371209 09/15/17 12:55 PM 09/15/17 12:55 PM
Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 4,491 Morristown Tn. 7 71birdJ68 master
71birdJ68 master 7 Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 4,491 Morristown Tn.	He was talking about putting auto oil in an aircraft engine. Mobil 1 used to make a aviation oil, but their formula didn't mix well with the lead in the fuel, and they had to buy a bunch of ruined engines, so Mobil 1 doesn't make a aviation oil now. The jest of the story is the amount of zinc that is used is very important. Last edited by 71birdJ68; 09/15/17 01:03 PM.

Re: Shell zinc additive at Autozone [Re: GMP440] #2371263 09/15/17 02:48 PM 09/15/17 02:48 PM
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MI_Custumz master Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 5,753 Port Huron, Michigan	Would .14 on a spec sheet be 1400? I see Valvoline VR1 has .14 listed. https://sharena21.springcm.com/Public/Do...10-ac162d889bd3

Re: Shell zinc additive at Autozone [Re: GMP440] #2371270 09/15/17 02:54 PM 09/15/17 02:54 PM
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MI_Custumz master Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 5,753 Port Huron, Michigan	Lucas Hot Rod oil 10W30 is 2100.

Re: Shell zinc additive at Autozone [Re: 360view] #2371324 09/15/17 04:36 PM 09/15/17 04:36 PM
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Supercuda About to go away Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours	Originally Posted By 360view So former Shell Oil engineer Ben Visser's article in July 20 2017 General Aviation News page 12 leads to the conclusion that a bit less than 1400 ppm of ZDDP is optimum for wear. But his comments on non-zinc detergents in some automotive oils burning up and leaving ash deposits that cause pre-ignition pinging also trigger some thoughts. Which automotive rated oils have the lowest levels of ash deposits? He was talking about using AUTOMOTIVE OILS in an AVIATION engine and why that may be a bad idea. He goes into how the 1400 PPM level may not be RELEVANT for AUTOMOTIVE engines because they are designed and built DIFFERENT than an AVIATION engine and are not as susceptible to the problems an AVIATION engine is with high levels of ZDDP. But hey let's take away whatever from wherever. They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.

Re: Shell zinc additive at Autozone [Re: GMP440] #2371625 09/16/17 08:55 AM 09/16/17 08:55 AM
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360view Moparts resident spammer 3 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 8,162 USA	Sometimes it is good to read things 3 times. So I did. He discusses engine lube oils with emphasis on wear additives and detergents. He believes his readers should learn the practical and legal aspects of both aviation and automotive engine oils. He goes into detail about ZDDP and its concentration. He brings up the interesting topic of ash from oil detergents causing pre-ignition.

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