Re: Max Wedge EZ or TF 270 ?
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If it's any help I am running the 270's and had them ported by Larry Smith at flow2tech. They flowed 278@.700 on his bench and 284 on my local builders bench. The same bench flowed my 240's at a smidge under trick flows rated flow (330@.700 I think it was). I can't speak to how well they perform yet as I am still dialing in the tune and haven't had them to the track yet. I can attest to the quality of the manufacturing though. And I can also say that the quality of customer service from trick flow is head and shoulders above what you will ever get from Indy. They were cool enough to swap out my 240's for the 270's 6 months after I had purchased the 240's and didn't even charge me a restocking fee despite the fact I had purchased them through a different distributor. Pretty solid customer service if you ask me. Am i reading this right ? 278@.700 on the 270 . Less than TF240. Or wrong number ? At least no need for offset rockers with the TF270 Tex
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Re: Max Wedge EZ or TF 270 ?
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do you want the customer to hate you because the motor you put together doesn't run good, including back firing through the carbs. killing the motor due to reversion in the intake to head transition Do NOT do that Unless you buy one of the A&A 440 motor look alike cross ram intakes for the stock 440 headed motors
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Re: Max Wedge EZ or TF 270 ?
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well can a source stealth head be opened up to work with a max intake ? This question tells me that you don't have much experience with these parts. If that is the case then you either need to find someone you trust to help you out or just start by trying to bolt some things together so you can figure out how they go together. You're questions are all over the map which is why you are getting replies that are all over the map. The answers you get on Moparts will be very confusing for someone who doesn't already have a really good understanding of how the engines go together. For example, the EZ head and the TF 270 head use extended intake ports. The other heads you are asking about such as Stealth heads do not have extended intake ports. So you are not comparing apples to apples.
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Re: Max Wedge EZ or TF 270 ?
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One of best of the "down and dirty" ways for a budget friendly mw x-ram install is to use the stealth heads opened to mw size.
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Re: Max Wedge EZ or TF 270 ?
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Thanks fast68, that's what I needed to see, & will do.and yes I have never been around a Max Wedge Engine before to know the exact head requirements.Tom One of best of the "down and dirty" ways for a budget friendly mw x-ram install is to use the stealth heads opened to mw size.
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Re: Max Wedge EZ or TF 270 ?
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FAST... I have a question for ya...why take so much off the bottom of the port... on my SB stuff I tend to move the port up and it flows very well
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Re: Max Wedge EZ or TF 270 ?
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That's where the ports are oriented on a stock mw head......... To make it so the stock manifold lines up with the head..... I just match it to stock.
If you overlay the mw gasket on top of the std gasket and line up the bolt holes you'll see that the mw port opening extends above and below the std port opening.
Same gasket on a factory mw head:
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Re: Max Wedge EZ or TF 270 ?
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The Stealth head pictured above, after also being treated to a more flow friendly valve job, back cut valves, and the bowls blended........ Flowed 288@.550 lift, which is way more than an unmodified OE mw head.
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Re: Max Wedge EZ or TF 270 ?
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Sorry, that's a typo. It should be 378 and 384. That would suck if I paid for all that porting only to have less flow! Tex
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Re: Max Wedge EZ or TF 270 ?
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That's where the ports are oriented on a stock mw head......... To make it so the stock manifold lines up with the head..... I just match it to stock.
If you overlay the mw gasket on top of the std gasket and line up the bolt holes you'll see that the mw port opening extends above and below the std port opening.
Same gasket on a factory mw head: Dwayne , in seeing this would it be practical to use a max wedge gasket on the source cnc heads . I use Felpro 1216 gasket and have to open them up to suit , I even had to open the pan up . I know height will be off . Or have you used Indy gasket 400- G1-210 from Hughes ? I cut to at least 2.35 x 1.25 and may need a little more . Sorry for the highjack . Tex
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Re: Max Wedge EZ or TF 270 ?
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Tex, the "if it were me" answer is, I would open up a valley pan gasket to the size I needed, and I'd reuse it as many times as I could. I would just keep replacing the paper gaskets after manifold R&R.
Andy's bat wing system might be easier to rework for your application.
Hughes has their own gaskets that are made to be opened up to facilitate ports in between std and mw size.
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Re: Max Wedge EZ or TF 270 ?
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Tex, the "if it were me" answer is, I would open up a valley pan gasket to the size I needed, and I'd reuse it as many times as I could. I would just keep replacing the paper gaskets after manifold R&R.
Andy's bat wing system might be easier to rework for your application.
Hughes has their own gaskets that are made to be opened up to facilitate ports in between std and mw size.
thanks Dwayne Tex
New best ET 10.259@129.65 . New best MPH 130.32 Finally fitted a solid cam, stepped it up a bit more 3690lbs through the mufflers New World block 3780lbs 10.278@130.80 . Wowser 10.253@130.24 footbraking from 1500rpm Power by Tex's Automotive
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Re: Max Wedge EZ or TF 270 ?
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The issue you're having is why I like to leave std port openings actually "std" size on heads without raised runners(heads that will use the valley pan gasket).
It's also another reason I prefer to use raised runner heads if possible....... Just to get away from the valley pan gasket!!
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Re: Max Wedge EZ or TF 270 ?
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Batwings to the rescue! That is the whole reason I developed the batwing concept. It allows you to fiddle around with the side gaskets but still have a nice solid area to seal to the valley plate. But it is a lot more expensive and it adds some hassle factor to the engine build. Thanks Andy , have looked at them and feel that will be where I go later this year . Try the expense from down here , exchange and freight . But I think may be best solution . I had a homemade plate but it did start to weep at head face . Or fit that modman up Tex
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