Re: A833 18spline, hard to put into 1st after being in neutral
[Re: lilred]
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07/27/17 04:28 PM
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Sounds like the clutch disc doesn't have enough clearance. Take the inspection plate off. Have someone depress the clutch pedal, and you put a feeler gauge inbetween the disc and the pressure plate and/or flywheel. You should have at least .060" gap. If you do not, adjust until you do and then go retest the vehicle. Pretty simple 15 minute test.
Last edited by Cuda340; 07/27/17 04:29 PM.
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Re: A833 18spline, hard to put into 1st after being in neutral
[Re: lilred]
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07/27/17 08:08 PM
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Here's what I would try at this point.....
I would want to try and determine if the disc/input shaft is turning, when it's hot and the clutch is depressed.
Go out, drive it around, get it hot to where the problem is occurring. When you get it back home like that, immediately jack it up and get it on some jack stands or lift(or if you have a friend with a lift, etc). With the inspection cover removed and the motor running, brakes set, you should be able to see if when you push the clutch in, does the disc stop turning or not?
If when trying to push the lever into gear the disc doesn't stop turning........ Either there is too much drag on the input shaft in the bushing....... Or the brass ring just doesn't have enough friction to stop the gears from turning.
68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
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Re: A833 18spline, hard to put into 1st after being in neutral
[Re: lilred]
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07/27/17 09:06 PM
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I guess my thinking is...... The disc is either turning or it isn't.
If its still turning, I don't see how it can be anything other than something is creating more drag to keep it turning than the brass ring has to stop it from turning.
68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
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Re: A833 18spline, hard to put into 1st after being in neutral
[Re: lilred]
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07/27/17 09:50 PM
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I was not going to do so but will ax again. Perhaps I have overlooked response.
What happens when going from neutral to either reverse or 1st gear, engine running.
Are you certain that clutch disc is not warped?
Still interested if clutch shaft pilot bushing or bearing is to tight or otherwise damaged.
Suppose it is possible that pressure plate not releasing equally about its entire perimeter,,,because of defective pressure plate, incorrect , improperly installed or damaged throw out bearing.
There was posting regarding clutch release linkage, has this all been resolved.
Adjust clutch to where no free play at all,,,,can you get into gear then?
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Re: A833 18spline, hard to put into 1st after being in neutral
[Re: lilred]
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07/28/17 12:42 PM
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How hard is it to get it into reverse after its all heated up?
I would think if the issue was excessive drag on the input shaft, then it would grind A LOT when going for reverse. If reverse seems pretty normal, and you could get another gear(like 3rd or 4th) normally, then I would think there is an interface problem with the brass ring and cone for 1st gear.
What happens when you try to go from reverse to first?
68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
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