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Re: Bought my first 400 Block this Weekend [Re: Cab_Burge] #2337512
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Originally Posted By Cab_Burge
Sell that 383 block and buy another good 400 block, especially with any power adder twocents work
I would hate to hear that you ran over the crankshaft at speeds shock down work
Make sure and have all the blocks you use sonic tested before deciding on how much power your going to build for.
Anything above 600 HP on pump gas you should replace the stock main caps with after market Ductile Iron(my first choice,) or aluminum with ARP main studs twocents thumbs


I cringe sometimes wondering when the rods are going to exit the block at 7000+ rpms w/stock caps and 20+ year old studs............. realcrazy luck


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Re: Bought my first 400 Block this Weekend [Re: Thumperdart] #2337526
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You listen 20 yrs. ago and bought what good parts where available back then and had it machine correctly up bow
Your reaping the rewards still today boogie up work grin
If you had talked about a 4.00 or larger stroke crank originally I would have been on you about the main caps back then, I didn't think you would ever make 700+ HP confused work shruggy
Never quit learning and trying boogie devil whistling


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Re: Bought my first 400 Block this Weekend [Re: Cab_Burge] #2338035
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Here is a picture of the light weight crank and the Bob weights...

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'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Bought my first 400 Block this Weekend [Re: Dragula] #2338043
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What's the stroke and brand of that nice looking crankshaft? up


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Re: Bought my first 400 Block this Weekend [Re: Cab_Burge] #2338106
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Originally Posted By Cab_Burge
What's the stroke and brand of that nice looking crankshaft? up


440 Source and its a 4.25 stroke.


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Bought my first 400 Block this Weekend [Re: Dragula] #2338176
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Thanks, I didn't know they had that sort of quality cranks with the pendulum cut counter weight and so on bow


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Re: Bought my first 400 Block this Weekend [Re: Cab_Burge] #2338319
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Originally Posted By Cab_Burge
You listen 20 yrs. ago and bought what good parts where available back then and had it machine correctly up bow
Your reaping the rewards still today boogie up work grin
If you had talked about a 4.00 or larger stroke crank originally I would have been on you about the main caps back then, I didn't think you would ever make 700+ HP confused work shruggy
Never quit learning and trying boogie devil whistling


Glad you were around Cab to keep my azz in check.......... biggrin


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Re: Bought my first 400 Block this Weekend [Re: Dragula] #2338372
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Originally Posted By Dragula
Here is a picture of the light weight crank and the Bob weights...



Did you buy the rotating assy as a complete kit? I'm curious about the quality of all the pieces and if you had to do anything extra to get things to work.

What did you figure for cam specs? Do the piston reliefs allow for a 2.25 valve and a .700 ish lift cam?

Thanks and keep us updated with progress - nice setup!

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Originally Posted By Dragula
Originally Posted By Clanton
The pulleys are for the alternator?
Good luck at the track!


Drives the water pump and alternator...Race car only stuff...lol



Originally Posted By gregsdart
What heads did you wind up with? Flow?


Heads are my old try'd and true Indy EZ1 heads...330cfm at .600" is all they are...too scared to try 440-1's due to Header A-body fitment...Went 9.70 in my 440


Send the heads to Dwayne over the winter and have him touch them up. My EZ-1 heads flow about 365 after Dwayne worked them over last time. That would give you another 50 hp or so which could put you into the low 9's. If you need that final push into the 8's then send the intake to Wilson for their competition porting. I have a low deck 400-3 that they did for me. Fantastic work.

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Re: Bought my first 400 Block this Weekend [Re: AndyF] #2339407
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Originally Posted By AndyF
Originally Posted By Dragula
Originally Posted By Clanton
The pulleys are for the alternator?
Good luck at the track!


Drives the water pump and alternator...Race car only stuff...lol



Originally Posted By gregsdart
What heads did you wind up with? Flow?


Heads are my old try'd and true Indy EZ1 heads...330cfm at .600" is all they are...too scared to try 440-1's due to Header A-body fitment...Went 9.70 in my 440


Send the heads to Dwayne over the winter and have him touch them up. My EZ-1 heads flow about 365 after Dwayne worked them over last time. That would give you another 50 hp or so which could put you into the low 9's. If you need that final push into the 8's then send the intake to Wilson for their competition porting. I have a low deck 400-3 that they did for me. Fantastic work.


I will have to get some pricing, but if he can get 50hp out of my heads, that's the way I am going....

Had my first outing with the new engine and trans today....Went well. Nothing fell off the car!

So I accidentally left my last dial in on the window. So first pass, what does it run in the heat,,,Right on the 6.27 dial! MPH was only 108...Its was real lean, no color on the plugs. Jetted up...Made a 2nd hit 6.26 at 109.5 and still lean with #100 jets in it!

I think I am going to have to change the emulsions as Thumper suggested. This little motor wants FUEL!

Packed up and went home to get ready for the Gold Cup this weekend.

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'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Bought my first 400 Block this Weekend [Re: Dragula] #2339421
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AWESOME!!! good lookin car !!


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Re: Bought my first 400 Block this Weekend [Re: Dragula] #2339539
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'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
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Do you have a wide band in this car..........


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Re: Bought my first 400 Block this Weekend [Re: Dragula] #2339827
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Nice pass.


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Re: Bought my first 400 Block this Weekend [Re: Thumperdart] #2340065
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Originally Posted By Thumperdart
Do you have a wide band in this car..........


Do a set of Levis 38x34 count as a wide band?


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Bought my first 400 Block this Weekend [Re: Dragula] #2340139
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Originally Posted By Dragula
Originally Posted By Thumperdart
Do you have a wide band in this car..........


Do a set of Levis 38x34 count as a wide band?


A different type, but yes............. biggrin


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Re: Bought my first 400 Block this Weekend [Re: Thumperdart] #2346448
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I had a good first outing on Tuesday making only 2 passes and having a slight miss right before the top of each gear shift, I figured it was a lean miss. No actual data other than my Levis and plug color. So I loaded up and jetted the carb a little the next day in anticipation of the Gold Cup on Friday and Saturday.

Well, this has been a tough season....I could not get the car to run well on the last outing at the Nostalgia Gold Cup that Friday night. Between loosing a rad hose and almost hitting the wall and trying to figure out whats wrong with a miss, then only to notice on Saturday I had next to no oil pressure on my fresh engine, I was done.

I suspected I had a bad distributor at first, but couldn't find the problem, then the wall, and then no oil pressure. I packed it up from the Gold cup and went home to re-think for a day or so.

Lots of bad stuff in the oil filter, and only 10lbs of pressure at idle instead of 82lbs like we had. Decided to start pulling the engine out, and found #3 plug all black....Pulled the covers, two bent push rods and a broken tab on the lifter....So this is fun....I re-used these off the last engine, maybe one time too many.

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'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Bought my first 400 Block this Weekend [Re: Dragula] #2346467
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On a side note, this might seem catastrophic by some, but this isn't a real exotic race motor like my Hemi and its upper end stuff. The filter is a full time filter unit and hopefully caught everything. So I am upset, but this is racing, and it is the reason I run a mild combo.

The pushrods are off the shelf have them in a day or two, the rockers we have spares of already, and the lifters are basic comp cams stuff. All off the shelf.

When I ordered the push rods last, I should have ordered extra's....my bad. Lifters I might steel from my Hemi and still have this back together this week if I get push rods.

But I like I can have all the stuff here by next week at the latest. The car will miss the Sunday Niagara Nostalgia drags this week, but my engine builder has a Hemi car I can beat on, so if he has it ready, we will still have fun.


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
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You better take a "REAL GOOD" look at that cam. With the link bar broke like that it would allow the lifter to spin in the lifter bore. If it even started to turn there's a real good chance that it damaged the cam.


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Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
You better take a "REAL GOOD" look at that cam.


I'm with you on that one.......


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