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Enginequest small block heads any good? #233910
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Any drawbacks or oddball parts they require to run on a stock 340?

Re: Enginequest small block heads any good? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #233911
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They need the magnum rockers and valves and if you get the 318A it needs a magnum intake or redrilled intake bolt holes. If you get the 318B it still needs the magnum rocker gear but it has the LA bolt pattern already. They are desighned to use magnum valve covers but sposably you can use an LA cover. Pushrods are a different length than a 340, you need to make sure you have lifters that oil through the PR and you need hollow PRs. If it is a high compression factory 340 the pistons com up above deck about .017 or .018 and will hit the head unless you use a very thick gasket like .052 I think fel pro makes somethin like that.


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Re: Enginequest small block heads any good? [Re: HotRodDave] #233912
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If you use CompCams screw in studs and guide plates. You can use any 1.6 rocker for a small chevy. I just had a pair done by Ryan@ ShadyDell.
Stage 3 porting flowed 269@.600intake 201 exhaust.

Re: Enginequest small block heads any good? [Re: hemi471] #233913
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I called enginequest and the sales guy said the "B" heads would accept all stock rocker gear. By what you guys are saying sounds like he was wrong?

Hemi 471....Sounds like some good numbers there, not far off what ported W2's would bring

Re: Enginequest small block heads any good? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #233914
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I called enginequest and the sales guy said the "B" heads would accept all stock rocker gear. By what you guys are saying sounds like he was wrong?






"stock" for a Magnum yes.....

They are Magnum heads... LA rocker gear will not work. But they do offer that head with LA intake bolt holes which is what Hemi471 has.

They are real nice heads & very cheap.

Re: Enginequest small block heads any good? [Re: RyanJ] #233915
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Ok, that explains it. They were asking 279 each which isn't exactly "cheap" IMO, but for the flow they offer that's not bad I guess. What would a guy have in a set complete with vlaves, springs, rocker gear, and a Stage III port job?

Re: Enginequest small block heads any good? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #233916
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$560 for a pair of brand new heads fully machined with hardened seats....... that's cheap.

The new RHS/INDY X heads are little more $ & are avail assembled. They are also avail with LA rocker gear provision if that's what you're after.

Re: Enginequest small block heads any good? [Re: RyanJ] #233917
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These are for a friend of mines build so he's shopping his options right now. He owns some new Crane Gold LA style rockers and was hoping to use them. I'm assuming fully machined doesn't include a nice valve job right?

Re: Enginequest small block heads any good? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #233918
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On a related note.

I picked these up and don't need them, I was going to offer them to my buddy for his build, is there anything good bad or indifferent about them for a mild street build? What heads will they work or not work in? All of these parts are new in the original packaging so are in perfect shape.

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Re: Enginequest small block heads any good? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #233919
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Look in the latest Mopar Action (June 2009). They did a magnum head comparo and the Engine Quest Heads flowed quite well. With the 1.92 intake valves they got 240 cfm @ .600", when equiped with 2.02" intakes, they flowed 254 cfm @ .600", even better that the Edelbrock's. Even with the 1.92" valves, they blew all of the MP heads out of the water.

Re: Enginequest small block heads any good? [Re: RyanJ] #233920
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$560 for a pair of brand new heads fully machined with hardened seats....... that's cheap.

The new RHS/INDY X heads are little more $ & are avail assembled. They are also avail with LA rocker gear provision if that's what you're after.




Ryan, Have you seen the RHS heads yet? or pricing? Availability? Any info/opinions appreciated.

Jeff

Re: Enginequest small block heads any good? [Re: TheBlackCar] #233921
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i just saw the latest mopar action and like one member said the EQ head out flowed the MP and was a cheaper head.The EQ head was even better than the eddy head on the intake side.I might have to get a pair for my lil short bed dakota that runs 14.30s with the 318 mag.

Re: Enginequest small block heads any good? [Re: Otherlane] #233922
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I just bought a set for my DD 83 D 250 (318) Nice heads; I am putting an RV cam in as well (smaller than I otherwise might considering the 1.6 RR the Magnum heads use vs the LA 1.5s; if you look, the standard 360 (non HP) is pretty much identical to a COMP 252 only with 0.015" less lift. Big deal; but T can get the 360 cam for 1/2 the price of the Comp around here; this is not a race motor but a heavy truck that occasionally gets USED like one! I have more $$$ in used Magnum heads and machine shop fees to find out the OE Mag heads are invariably cracked. (I have 5 cracked boat anchors sitting here as we speak and you don't wanna know how much $$ I have in them---wasted--- more than the pair of EQ heads cost me for sure.
These are the exact same heads as some sell as "Iron Rams".

Here's the EQ National sales director;I got a bit better deal than you show in an above post from this guy; NO middleman involved;
Mark Moore
Nat'l Sales Director-Engine Quest
(800)-426-8771 x 209
E mail; mvm@aaeq.net

Re: Enginequest small block heads any good? [Re: volaredon] #233923
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Looks like on RyanJs bench they flow about 10 cfm more than a regular magnum.


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Re: Enginequest small block heads any good? [Re: HotRodDave] #233924
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They definitely have more potential than a factory magnum head.

Re: Enginequest small block heads any good? [Re: RyanJ] #233925
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These heads are a great value... 1/2 the price of R/T heads and better quality. I used 2.02 intakes and some bowl work and they pushed my porky 3,900lb 83 cordoba to 13.2 @105
with a stroked 318 (390) For a street/strip combo less than 500HP I think these are the best choice...... TBF


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Re: Enginequest small block heads any good? [Re: hemi471] #233926
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If you use CompCams screw in studs and guide plates. You can use any 1.6 rocker for a small chevy. I just had a pair done by Ryan@ ShadyDell.
Stage 3 porting flowed [Email]269@.600intake[/Email] 201 exhaust.




Wow.. Ryan got that exhaust side moving some air.... I would love to see a pic of the port??? Here is my handiwork after catching a buzz breathing cast iron dust! TBF

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Re: Enginequest small block heads any good? [Re: tpabayflyer] #233927
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Nice! Even your average magnum head out flows an LT1

I am still suprised there is that much differance in the stock magnum and the EQ. Whos numbers are those?


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Re: Enginequest small block heads any good? [Re: HotRodDave] #233928
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Do the EQ heads require special headers? Do the EQB heads accept a stock LA intake?

Re: Enginequest small block heads any good? [Re: HotRodDave] #233929
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Nice! Even your average magnum head out flows an LT1

I am still suprised there is that much differance in the stock magnum and the EQ. Whos numbers are those?




the article says everything was done on Ray Bartons flow bench...


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Re: Enginequest small block heads any good? [Re: volaredon] #233930
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I just bought a set for my DD 83 D 250 (318) Nice heads; I am putting an RV cam in as well (smaller than I otherwise might considering the 1.6 RR the Magnum heads use vs the LA 1.5s; if you look, the standard 360 (non HP) is pretty much identical to a COMP 252 only with 0.015" less lift. Big deal; but T can get the 360 cam for 1/2 the price of the Comp around here; this is not a race motor but a heavy truck that occasionally gets USED like one! I have more $$$ in used Magnum heads and machine shop fees to find out the OE Mag heads are invariably cracked. (I have 5 cracked boat anchors sitting here as we speak and you don't wanna know how much $$ I have in them---wasted--- more than the pair of EQ heads cost me for sure.
These are the exact same heads as some sell as "Iron Rams".

Here's the EQ National sales director;I got a bit better deal than you show in an above post from this guy; NO middleman involved;
Mark Moore
Nat'l Sales Director-Engine Quest
(800)-426-8771 x 209
E mail; mvm@aaeq.net


People don't realize that the time & money you spend looking for good castings ( Gas, Time, checking for cracks) you would be better of with new castings. Matt

Re: Enginequest small block heads any good? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #233931
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Do the EQ heads require special headers? Do the EQB heads accept a stock LA intake?




You can run the standard TTI headers in addition to other LA exhaust port headers with the EQs. I have also seen people run the stock 340 exhaust manifolds with the EQ heads without needing adapters like you would with stock magnum heads.

Re: Enginequest small block heads any good? [Re: tpabayflyer] #233932
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If you use CompCams screw in studs and guide plates. You can use any 1.6 rocker for a small chevy. I just had a pair done by Ryan@ ShadyDell.
Stage 3 porting flowed [Email]269@.600intake[/Email] 201 exhaust.




Wow.. Ryan got that exhaust side moving some air.... I would love to see a pic of the port??? Here is my handiwork after catching a buzz breathing cast iron dust! TBF




201 is nothing special.... Besides Ex ports are'nt where power is made, don't get too hung up on exhaust #'s.

Magnum R/T's have been discontinued & I was told they will not be re-released.

I actually like the MP Aluminum magnum head other than the ridiculous cost, it's basically the Commando head with 8MM guides & Magnum rocker system & VC rail. I've got a set out there running 10.70's on a very mild Hyd roller 360 Crate motor in a 3200# Dart. But at same time I have a set of unported (VJ only) Mag R/T's running 10.90's in 3200# Dart as well at 365 inches with a mild Hyd roller so.....

There are alot of factors other than flow #s that go into making power so don't get caught up in #'s game All those heads can make really good power when properly done up & put in the proper combination.

Re: Enginequest small block heads any good? [Re: RyanJ] #233933
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Ryan hit it on the head(pun intended).

Re: Enginequest small block heads any good? [Re: RyanJ] #233934
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$560 for a pair of brand new heads fully machined with hardened seats....... that's cheap.

The new RHS/INDY X heads are little more $ & are avail assembled. They are also avail with LA rocker gear provision if that's what you're after.




Where can you buy them for $560? I see the bare heads on the EQ website for $349 each...

These do seem like a good bang for the buck on a street/strip deal. Makes me wanna build a 360 on the cheap in a (getting cheaper) A-body and see if I can get in the 11's in TOTAL street trim...

The RHS/Indy X head is not available yet, right? Any clue as what the pricing might be??

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Call RHS for availiblity,I think a little under $700.00pr bare. Running 11's with a mild 360
A body isn't difficult.

Re: Enginequest small block heads any good? [Re: cudadoug] #233936
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Call Don at FBO. Foursecondsflat.com His price was $550.00 shipped.

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