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Hooker super comp fitment #2335356
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With another option to headers and a spin off from my other post on TTI header fitment, what about 5209 Hookers? Any big issues with getting these on. Same questions as to starter clearance, 11" flywheel with Lakewood bell housing. Eddy RPM heads with angled plugs, stock front suspension..
Also, what about Doug's D452 2" headers, same questions.

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I had Hooker 5209 headers on the 440 w/ Edelbrock heads in my cuda, fit just fine. That was w/ an automatic though.


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I have 5209's on my car. No problems.


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I have 5209 on my pile, angled plugs, but automatic and low deck so kind of hard to compare.


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Originally Posted By JERICOGTX
I have 5209's on my car. No problems.


Jeff, What heads are you running? Also, what starter?


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INDY SR heads on a low deck, which put the exhaust ports in the same location as a 440 with stock heads. Starter is a mini Denso from a '96 Ram.


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Originally Posted By JERICOGTX
INDY SR heads on a low deck, which put the exhaust ports in the same location as a 440 with stock heads. Starter is a mini Denso from a '96 Ram.


Any issues with bell housing? Are you running an 11" flywheel?


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5209 here
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Eddy RPM heads
But again, auto trans

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Originally Posted By 68LAR
Originally Posted By JERICOGTX
INDY SR heads on a low deck, which put the exhaust ports in the same location as a 440 with stock heads. Starter is a mini Denso from a '96 Ram.


Any issues with bell housing? Are you running an 11" flywheel?

Larry I'm running Doug's D452 with an 11" wheel and an Ansen bell. I have a stock 318 Dakota Denso starter with plenty of room.
I did have to cut some clearance notches on the flange of the bell to fit the tubes but they fit perfect otherwise.
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Originally Posted By 68LAR
Originally Posted By JERICOGTX
INDY SR heads on a low deck, which put the exhaust ports in the same location as a 440 with stock heads. Starter is a mini Denso from a '96 Ram.


Any issues with bell housing? Are you running an 11" flywheel?


No, and yes.


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Originally Posted By JERICOGTX
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INDY SR heads on a low deck, which put the exhaust ports in the same location as a 440 with stock heads. Starter is a mini Denso from a '96 Ram.


Any issues with bell housing? Are you running an 11" flywheel?


No, and yes.

Larry I'm running Doug's D452 with an 11" wheel and an Ansen bell. I have a stock 318 Dakota Denso starter with plenty of room.
I did have to cut some clearance notches on the flange of the bell to fit the tubes but they fit perfect otherwise.
Indy EZ heads and RB block
Gus beer

Thanks guys, appreciate the info. Looks like I have to decide on a tuned header(5209) or untuned (D452). Also looks like TTI's are out, seems like there are too many questions with fitment..


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With those headers I've always had to trim the pass side of the bell housing "lakewood" to clear a tube..
I've done more than a doz..I've also had to trim with the headman hustler Indy head style header...

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Originally Posted By RobR
With those headers I've always had to trim the pass side of the bell housing "lakewood" to clear a tube..
I've done more than a doz..I've also had to trim with the headman hustler Indy head style header...


I had to trim the flange on the passenger side of the bell housing with my CPPA's also. So that's already done. If I need to tweak it a bit, no big deal for me. If the fitment of the Hooker and the Doug's is good, the decision I have to make is on a tuned header vs. a non tuned header.


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Well another thing about the super comps, they're 18 gauge with
5/16 flanges. Alot of folks don't like that...

Aren't the dougs and tti heavier gauge including thicker flanges?

(Maybe that would make a difference)


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Originally Posted By ZIPPY
Well another thing about the super comps, they're 18 gauge with
5/16 flanges. Alot of folks don't like that...

Aren't the dougs and tti heavier gauge including thicker flanges?

(Maybe that would make a difference)

True, but the Doug's are not a tuned header and are more money.
All three are 18 guage, difference is the flange thickness. Don't really know that the extra 1/16" would make that big a difference?

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Well, OK, both manufacturers list the wrong specs-

http://www.ttiexhaust.com/MoparClassics-Headers/440-200/TTi440-200.htm

"Material: Constructed of 16 gauge mild steel tubing."

https://shop.dougsheaders.com/doug-s-hea...ic-coating.html

"Heavy 16 gauge tubing... longer life"




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[quote=ZIPPY]Well, OK, both manufacturers list the wrong specs-

http://www.ttiexhaust.com/MoparClassics-Headers/440-200/TTi440-200.htm

"Material: Constructed of 16 gauge mild steel tubing."

https://shop.dougsheaders.com/doug-s-hea...ic-coating.html

"Heavy 16 gauge tubing... longer life"

Zip, the heavy guage will last a long time. I don't know the thickness of my CPPA's, but I do know that they are well over 15 years old. Whichever I decide on, it will probably be the last set I buy for my car. I got to admit, I'm leaning toward the Hooker Super Comps. They are tuned, less money and don't seem to have any fitment issues out of the norm. The TTI's have too many questions marks as to starter. Can't really justify buying a $740 header, then have to buy a $240 starter. Not that I'm cheap, just frugal. Being on a fixed income, I got to watch where the money goes...


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Originally Posted By 68LAR
Originally Posted By ZIPPY
Well another thing about the super comps, they're 18 gauge with
5/16 flanges. Alot of folks don't like that...

Aren't the dougs and tti heavier gauge including thicker flanges?

(Maybe that would make a difference)

True, but the Doug's are not a tuned header and are more money.
All three are 18 gauge, difference is the flange thickness. Don't really know that the extra 1/16" would make that big a difference?


I'm a dumb a--. The TTI and Doug's are 3/8" flange with 16 gauge tubes. The Hookers are 5/16" flange with 18 gauge tubes....
Still leaning toward the Hookers


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Whats wrong with the cppa headers?
Still have a set in the barn that 22 years old, and might be going back into service if the Super comps hit my angled plugs.

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