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Adjusting brake drums to eliminate pull #2313797 05/30/17 07:56 PM 05/30/17 07:56 PM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 964 Cincinnati,Ohio J jcastle1 OP super stock
jcastle1 OP super stock J Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 964 Cincinnati,Ohio	So, recently my car has developed an extreme hard pull to the right when braking. I'm still on the large front drums for the road runner. (that's on the upgrade list for next year, discs) So I noticed that the strut rod bushings were shot and removed the torsion bars and installed new Moog problem solver upgrades today. Same issue. So now i am back to looking at the brake adjustment or possible brake hoses. Oh, BTW- after the immmediate hard pull to the right it tends to straighten up. Rest of the suspension is tight. Ideas?

Re: Adjusting brake drums to eliminate pull [Re: jcastle1] #2313805 05/30/17 08:13 PM 05/30/17 08:13 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska	A pull to the right means the left side ain't doing its job (for whatever reason). open it up & see what's up. live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: Adjusting brake drums to eliminate pull [Re: jcastle1] #2313806 05/30/17 08:15 PM 05/30/17 08:15 PM
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Clanton master C Joined: May 2011 Posts: 4,492 northern,Ohio,USA	Maybe it makes contact before the other side.sticking parts. GOTBOOST!New improved with Victor heads. http://www.enginelabs.com/mopar-big-bloc...t-of-necessity/

Re: Adjusting brake drums to eliminate pull [Re: Clanton] #2313823 05/30/17 08:32 PM 05/30/17 08:32 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,448 Eagle, Idaho Neil The Doctor is in.
Neil The Doctor is in. Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,448 Eagle, Idaho	Make sure you have the pads in the right orientation. Check the brake drum backing plates for wear where the brake pad frames ride. I recently had to weld and smooth the rear backing plates out on my pickup rear brakes to get the pads to move and return smoothly. They can fall into the groves which makes the brakes feel inconsistent and touchy. Another time I had pads that were glued instead of riveted and the leading edge came unglued from the steel frame. When the brakes came on the loose part of the pad would grab the drum and bunch up which would cause that one brake to apply way too fast. Once that partially unglued pad was swapped out all was good again.

Re: Adjusting brake drums to eliminate pull [Re: jcastle1] #2313878 05/30/17 10:19 PM 05/30/17 10:19 PM
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SpeedThrills member S Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 28 Verrrrry South Jersey	Old backing plates can get notches worn into them where the brake shoes sit against them. The shoes stick in them. I've welded them up and dressed them off with a grinder.

Re: Adjusting brake drums to eliminate pull [Re: jcastle1] #2314174 05/31/17 01:29 PM 05/31/17 01:29 PM
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Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,882 Bend,OR USA	Are you using the stock self adjusters still? If so remove both drum and see if one side is looser or tighter than the other on the adjusters Correct as needed Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: Adjusting brake drums to eliminate pull [Re: Cab_Burge] #2314304 05/31/17 08:01 PM 05/31/17 08:01 PM
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blewbyu master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,297 Florida	Could be a bad wheel cylinder not working on the opposite side of pull

Re: Adjusting brake drums to eliminate pull [Re: jcastle1] #2314350 05/31/17 09:37 PM 05/31/17 09:37 PM
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SportF pro stock S Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,235 Minn	there is some good suggestions here. Adjustment/tightness on one side or the other will not cause pull. When one side starts to touch, fluid flow will go to the other side and push on that side until it touches. That is the neat thing about hydraulic brakes, equal pressure on both sides.

Re: Adjusting brake drums to eliminate pull [Re: jcastle1] #2314354 05/31/17 09:45 PM 05/31/17 09:45 PM
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jcastle1 OP super stock J Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 964 Cincinnati,Ohio	aligned the car today. adjusted front brakes evenly. let front rear shoe is coming unbonded. wheel cylinders move freely on both sides. Brakes hoses are dry rotted on both sides. these are factory drum brakes with probably all original parts except wheel cylinders. car is a 69 road runner with a new 440/505 kit , S60 Dr. Diff Dana w/4:10 gears. 4*speed. Can someone look at this part number from Mancini Racing and let me know if it will stop the car good? If I'm gnna convert to fron disc, I want to make sure this kit will get the job done! BTW- Manual brakes,too

Re: Adjusting brake drums to eliminate pull [Re: jcastle1] #2314359 05/31/17 09:55 PM 05/31/17 09:55 PM
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rowin4 master Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,257 gulfport, ms, west mi	Believe it or not, theres a lot of 50 year old cars driving around with original brake hoses. Last year I had my rear brakes starting to drag, replaced both rear wheel cylinders , both were filled with crud. Resembled , the problem was worse. It was the rear hose . The line acted like a check valve, a lot of hydraulic brake going in ,nothing coming back. I bet it's your rubber hose. it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead

Re: Adjusting brake drums to eliminate pull [Re: rowin4] #2314360 05/31/17 09:59 PM 05/31/17 09:59 PM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 964 Cincinnati,Ohio J jcastle1 OP super stock
jcastle1 OP super stock J Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 964 Cincinnati,Ohio	i replaced the rear hoses when I did the S60 Dana upgrade

Re: Adjusting brake drums to eliminate pull [Re: jcastle1] #2314431 06/01/17 12:32 AM 06/01/17 12:32 AM
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RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska	I would get the drum setup straightened out first. I would replace the bad/unbonded shoe (if I am reading that right) then spoon em up tight then back off the other way till free & you hear a slight "tick" of contact at one point in the tires' revolution as you spin the wheel(s) forward by hand. live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: Adjusting brake drums to eliminate pull [Re: jcastle1] #2314445 06/01/17 01:12 AM 06/01/17 01:12 AM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,257 gulfport, ms, west mi rowin4 master
rowin4 master Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,257 gulfport, ms, west mi	But did you replace the front ones also at that time or do you know if they have been ever replaced? it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead

Re: Adjusting brake drums to eliminate pull [Re: rowin4] #2314462 06/01/17 04:49 AM 06/01/17 04:49 AM
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sthemi master Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,319 Chicago Burbs	Got the same exact problem with my 68 RT Charger, only it pulls left. just bought two wheel cyls and new hoses from rock auto. Pretty sure factory lines and wheel cylinders are still on the car. Video Little Red Wagon Indy Nats,BurnoutContest

Re: Adjusting brake drums to eliminate pull [Re: jcastle1] #2314485 06/01/17 09:16 AM 06/01/17 09:16 AM
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jcastle1 OP super stock J Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 964 Cincinnati,Ohio	front hoses are original,

Re: Adjusting brake drums to eliminate pull [Re: jcastle1] #2314613 06/01/17 02:09 PM 06/01/17 02:09 PM
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Sxrxrnr pro stock S Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,272 Northern Calyfornua	There is s good chance that if brake lining is not replaced pull will still exist if ever contaminated. . Once lining has been soaked with grease or brake fluid, it is likely you will be unable to clean throughly. Such compromised lining can/will often cause a severe pulling,,,,drums too must be throughly cleaned with carb or some such cleaner. Be very careful when installing shoes and other components, so as greasy hands do not re-contaminate surfaces. I learned a very long time ago not to blow compressed air to clean brakes after pulling drums. Vacuuming is advisable to start with for lung safety and not causing a general mess of your environment. Finish up with air but wear a nose mask and eye protection. Not as critical as when asbestos was standard lining material, advisable nonetheless.

Re: Adjusting brake drums to eliminate pull [Re: Sxrxrnr] #2314624 06/01/17 02:29 PM 06/01/17 02:29 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,336 Ball Ground, Georgia Dixie top fuel
Dixie top fuel Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,336 Ball Ground, Georgia	Originally Posted By Sxrxrnr There is s good chance that if brake lining is not replaced pull will still exist if ever contaminated. . Once lining has been soaked with grease or brake fluid, it is likely you will be unable to clean throughly. Such compromised lining can/will often cause a severe pulling,,,,drums too must be throughly cleaned with carb or some such cleaner. Be very careful when installing shoes and other components, so as greasy hands do not re-contaminate surfaces. I learned a very long time ago not to blow compressed air to clean brakes after pulling drums. Vacuuming is advisable to start with for lung safety and not causing a general mess of your environment. Finish up with air but wear a nose mask and eye protection. Not as critical as when asbestos was standard lining material, advisable nonetheless. Dixie Restoration Parts Phone -(770) 975-9898 Phone Hours: M-F 10am-5pm EST website: www.dixierestorationparts.com email: mail@dixierestorationparts.com Veteran owned small business The Best Parts at a Fair Price.

Re: Adjusting brake drums to eliminate pull [Re: jcastle1] #2315339 06/02/17 09:03 PM 06/02/17 09:03 PM
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jcastle1 OP super stock J Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 964 Cincinnati,Ohio	t's a brake hose! finally gonna upgrade to a front disc setup. I see mancini racing sells a kit made by MBM. Anyone use or heard of them?

Re: Adjusting brake drums to eliminate pull [Re: jcastle1] #2315406 06/02/17 11:41 PM 06/02/17 11:41 PM
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RUNCHARGER I Live Here R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,976 Chilliwack B.C. Canada	I would call Dr. Diff, he is a member here and will look after you. Sheldon

Re: Adjusting brake drums to eliminate pull [Re: jcastle1] #2317327 06/06/17 08:35 PM 06/06/17 08:35 PM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 964 Cincinnati,Ohio J jcastle1 OP super stock
jcastle1 OP super stock J Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 964 Cincinnati,Ohio	Thanks for the advice, i just ordered my kit from Dr. Diff. Incidentally, that's where i bought my S-60 Dana as well as my driveshaft from. What a great guy to deal with, a real pro at customer service (answers the phone, patient with my stupid questions, HONEST) a real asset to the hobby. I shopped it around and there are cheaper kits out there, and he did not dog any of them, simply explained the differences. If anyone is looking for a disc brake upgrade, don't waste your time looking around; I already did the homework.

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