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AAR Spoiler Location #230278
02/20/09 07:53 AM
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I'm looking for pictures or measurements of the factory location for an AAR rear deck lid spolier.

Hole size and location would be great....Thanks


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Re: AAR Spoiler Location [Re: anlauto] #230279
02/20/09 10:56 PM
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Are you putting it on a trunk lid that already has the 4 square cutouts underneath for the fastening hardware? That would make it easier for you.

The spoiler is centered left to right (of coarse), that's the easy part.

The for and aft can be a little more tricky. You need the 4 mounting studs ends to be centered in their 4 holes, but remember that the outer and inner trunk skin are NOT on parallel planes.

The studs should be angled towards the cutout center. If you drill the holes in the cutout center, then the stud end will angle towards the edge of the cutout and you won't be able to get a socket on it. You can see what I mean about the angle by placing the socket you intend to use in one of the cutouts, flat against the outer trunk skin. I did a LOT of measuring to mark where the holes needed to be on the inside of the trunk lid, then transferred my marks to the outer trunk skin with a very large caliper. Looks great now!

Remember to use some sealer around those 4 holes when you install the spoiler, or the trunk will fill with water the first time it rains.

Hope that helps a little.

Sorry my pics of this aren't digital.

Tav

Re: AAR Spoiler Location [Re: cataclysm80] #230280
02/21/09 08:58 AM
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"DUMB QUESTION:"

Are the holes on the outside skin the same size as the holes on the inner skin?

This is for a clone car, but I still would like it to look correct.

Any pictures, anybody?


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Re: AAR Spoiler Location [Re: anlauto] #230281
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I put a spoiler on my 72, the holes I drilled on the top side of the lid were just large enough to get the bolts through, on the inside I bored approx 1 - 1-1/4 inch holes to get the bolts throughand have the ability to tighten them, it's not like original but it works, the original AAR trunk had large rectangular cutouts.
here's a pic of mine

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Re: AAR Spoiler Location [Re: 340KID] #230283
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Heres an original. Pretty hard to duplicate without tooling.

5041386-dcp_2389.jpg (179 downloads)


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Re: AAR Spoiler Location [Re: A0M397X] #230284
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That picture should help you a LOT! Now you can at least see what we're talking about.

Does your trunk lid already have these square cut outs? (71 lids & about half the 70 lids did)

If not, then your first step will be to make these 4 rectangular holes. Options are...
1. find an original lid in good shape that has them
2. order a new AMD lid that has them
3. cut them out yourself

I couldn't find an original in good shape, and AMD lids weren't available yet when I did mine, so I chose to cut mine out myself. First Place Auto Products has a template available to show you where to cut out these 4 rectangular holes. I bought it, and it's far better than being clueless, but I was NOT impressed with it overall. (The template is raised from the surface quite a bit in the area your supposed to mark your cutouts, leaving a large variable in the angle & diameter of your pencil/marking instrument.) I ended up making my own template off of a poor condition original lid. I made the template by applying masking tape to the lid with the cutouts (in multiple layers & directions to minimize tape stretching during removal), make the cutouts in the tape with a razor blade and cutout a few other reference holes, Carefully remove the tape and place it on your lid lining up the reference holes, take some measurements off the original to make sure your template is in the right spot, then mark where your cutouts should be (I used a sharpie), remove your tape template & cutout the holes. I really think some kind of template is important for this. Measuring is very difficult due to the numerous curves of the inner trunk lid.

All 4 of the rectangular holes are the same size, and they have rounded corners, not square corners. I found the best way to cut them out was to drill the corners with a drill bit, then use a dremel tool to cut out the straight parts, and finish with a file. (don't let your metal pieces fall down inside the trunk lid or you'll have a rattle) It's tough to cut a straight line in metal that's so curvy, so be prepared to use up a lot of your patience.

After you've got those 4 holes in the right spot you can worry about getting the spoiler positioned correctly. Take note of where the phillips head spoiler screws are located by the edge of the trunk in the left part of that picture. Their position can help you a little to get the spoiler lined up.

You said this was for a clone. Is the spoiler you're using original, repro plastic like original, or repro fiberglass?

Tav

Re: AAR Spoiler Location [Re: cataclysm80] #230285
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Alan, I will bring my camera to the shop tomorrow and get you some picture. I have an AAR deck lid with no spoiler on it.

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and the holes are chamfered...







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