Re: Enclosed trailer question
[Re: Challenger 1]
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05/11/17 09:21 AM
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I agree with previous input. Had a 28' enclosed and while the space was nice, it was a bit too long for some situations. I felt a 24' would be ideal.
Be careful on weight capacity. In my opinion a 7000 pd enclosed trailer can quickly be over capacity if you're not careful. You need to remember the weight of the trailer counts in the capacity calculation.
This advice coming from someone who just finished repairs on a 7000 pd H&H tilt bed which had an inner wheel bearing failure after 2500 miles of use. That trailer weighs 2000 pds empty.
Pulling a big trailer with a short wheelbase truck is not fun. I pulled mine with a 2013 Ram 1/2 ton 4 dr pickup. Capacity wise it pulled fine but on occasion the trailer would let you know it was back there. Next time I'd use at least a 3/4 ton.
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Re: Enclosed trailer question
[Re: Finoke]
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05/11/17 12:45 PM
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Here's a thought. For ease of tying down, I had my trailer equipped with luggage doors all around and full length E-track to install wheel straps. No crawling under the car for me. This is a 22'. Towed it through the Rockies with two different Rams.
Peter
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Re: Enclosed trailer question
[Re: 300rag]
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05/11/17 01:59 PM
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All great input, keep it coming... Can someone explain in plain English the rating abreviations from the attached chart? My truck is on page one with 5.7 hemi and 3:92 gears Std Cab - 6'4" Box 4x4 - ST / TRADESMAN / EXPRESS 2012 Ram towing chart
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Re: Enclosed trailer question
[Re: Finoke]
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05/11/17 03:00 PM
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Your truck ratings are on the bottom line of the top chart, gross combine weight rating of 14,000 lbs. with the truck and trailer with the contents, pay load, in the trailer. That is a light duty truck with a GVR of 6,200 lbs. , I would weigh it as you drive it and then decide on what weight and length trailer you want to tow I've own three different enclosed trailer, two 24 Ft. 10,000 GVR and one 22 ft. 7,000 lb. GVR. I bought the 22 ft. new and specified what I wanted in it, the salesman promise me it would weigh under 3,000 lbs. empty, he LIED It weighed 4260 lbs. empty I towed that trailer and my current 24 Ft. Pace with a 1998 Ram 2500 short bed extended cab CTD, it had a combine towing capacity of 16,800 lbs. is what I remember. I spun it out on black ice on my first trip moving up here to Oregon,it bent up th edrivers side of the bed and hurt the towing hitch, NOT GOOD I ended up buying a 2006 Ram 3500 four door 4 wheel drive long bed after we moved in here in Bend, Or due to the bad winters, it works great towing I have weighed my current 24 Ft. Pace and it weighed around 8650 lbs. hook up to the truck with my old pump gas Street Duster which weighed 3450 lbs. with me in it so subtract 260 lbs. from that for the empty weight of the car, that trailer weight is with a medium size tool box , big 5500 watt Yamaha commercial generator, two floor jacks, one regular size and one small size, extra engine oil, tranny and rear end fluids, 8 to 10 spare tires and wheels for the car and trailer The trailer does add about 750 lbs. onto the trucks rear axle and lightens up the front axle around 450 lbs. Make sure and buy a trailer that has the 6000 lb. or larger rated axles and 16 inch wheels and tires, stay away from the smaller rated axles and 15 inch wheels and tires. I carry three spare trailer tires now mounted on the steel 6 lug wheels due to having blown two of them out on the road towing I'm thinking and hoping to buy a good 34 to 38 ft. gooseneck car trailer with living quarters and 7000 lbs. axles and 8 lug 16 inch wheels and tires next IHTHs
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Re: Enclosed trailer question
[Re: Finoke]
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05/11/17 03:06 PM
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8900: Even though your Cuda is about 3400lbs, I like to calculate 4500lbs to cover any car I might want to trailer. So that leaves up to a 4400lb trailer. I think most 24' enclosed trailers, no frills, range from 2800-3600lbs empty.
6350: So with you plus some small tools in the RAM you're ok at 5300lbs Gross Vehicle Weight. 5400lbs with a burrito at lunch. 14,000: So a bare trailer, Cbody and extra parts will bring you close to 13,500lbs Gross Combined Vehicle Weight, that doesn't leave much room for a couple fat chick ride alongs.
Pulling close to max is no big deal once in awhile. If you do it regularly, it's not good for the RAM or your wallet. Have you considered an open trailer? They're usually under 2000lbs. And if the axle rating is high enough, you can trailer your buddy's F150 when the time comes. Also, versatility with landscaping materials. Security is an issue, so how far, how many nights will you be using it?
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Re: Enclosed trailer question
[Re: Finoke]
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05/11/17 03:31 PM
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No matter what size trailer you purchase open or enclosed the most important part is to get the biggest axles and tires and brakes you can. never get 15" tires and nothing less than 6 lug wheels preferable 8 lug wheels and 12 inch brakes. On a trip from Vegas to Tn with my 97 club cab dually 12ft slide out camper fully loaded 28ft triple axle trailer, the power steering pump shaft broke. I lost the truck brakes and steering assist. Using basically the trailer brakes I drove from Texas to TN 1100 miles with just the trailer brakes. The trailer still performs flawlessly today. The only issue I have ever had was the cheap OE tires that it came with. I run BFG lt235 85 R16 tires now never another problem.
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Re: Enclosed trailer question
[Re: Dixie]
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05/11/17 04:01 PM
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Buy a trailer with brakes on both axles. Of all the trailers I have had this boat trailer was the only one that had brakes on all 4 wheels... It used to pull the tow vehicle to a stop when the brakes engaged.. I agree with the above post...
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Re: Enclosed trailer question
[Re: 1DGEMAN]
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05/11/17 09:02 PM
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No matter what size trailer you purchase open or enclosed the most important part is to get the biggest axles and tires and brakes you can. never get 15" tires and nothing less than 6 lug wheels preferable 8 lug wheels and 12 inch brakes. On a trip from Vegas to Tn with my 97 club cab dually 12ft slide out camper fully loaded 28ft triple axle trailer, the power steering pump shaft broke. I lost the truck brakes and steering assist. Using basically the trailer brakes I drove from Texas to TN 1100 miles with just the trailer brakes. The trailer still performs flawlessly today. The only issue I have ever had was the cheap OE tires that it came with. I run BFG lt235 85 R16 tires now never another problem. LT tires are illegal on trailers in most states. You guys who have been towing for years are freaking out the newbies, no need for 6K axles and 16" tires on an occasional tow trailer, and no need for a diesel either. I do recommend 5K axles with 15" wheels and E rated tires, for what the OP is doing that is MORE than enough. My 2004 32' LQ trailer that I had built has those axles and tires and has towed just fine for 13 years now. Yes I have blown a tire or two, but I tend to wear them out and not replace them every other year like some of you do.
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Re: Enclosed trailer question
[Re: Rhinodart]
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05/12/17 12:23 AM
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Every racer I know that has had 15" tires has had nothing but problems. They went to 16" and no more issues. I have traveled all over the country and hear the same story time and again. Minimum 6 bolt axles 16" tires and biggest brakes you can get. What is your cargo worth? Common sense.
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