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AMD 66-70 upper cowl quality accuracy and fit? #2300090
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wondering if anyone can provide advice feedback on the use of the AMD upper cowl? Fit and finsh versus an original.
Mine needs repairs and full of drill holes
I have a guy with spot welder setup to put it on but dint want to go new if problems with quality and accuracy


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The one I used, I had to widen the front edge to the hood to get the gap right. Measuring the width front to back it was not as wide a factory one. Maybe it was corrected since, but wasn't too happy with it and will find a good used one next time.


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Re: AMD 66-70 upper cowl quality accuracy and fit? [Re: Q5_Ed] #2300143
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Funny you should ask ... I'm in the process right now. Got the old one off and have the new AMD clamped in place. Here are some observations and suggestions.

1) when removing the old one, blow off all the lead at the A pillars so you can see the original joint THEN cut the original off about 1" from where the original ends. Why? Because the AMD appears to be short in this area and looks to need to be butt welded (the original's ends are flanged to come down and meet the A pillars, the AMD is not). You want to cut with a delicate touch so as not to cut into the lower cowl.

2) along the fiewall joint the AMD falls short where it turns up. a) it doesn't touch right down to meet the firewall lip b) the flange isn't as wide as original and c) there isn't enough material to massage there (may need to fab/add some metal)

Other than that, I think I'd still rather work with the AMD piece than one cut off a car.

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Thanks much


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Amd is junk you have to cobb together . laugh2

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Ok, so there's ONE person's opinion.

Re: AMD 66-70 upper cowl quality accuracy and fit? [Re: flypaper] #2300381
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Originally Posted By flypaper
Amd is junk you have to cobb together . laugh2


Make it two iagree If it was half as good as people here claimed, I'd be happy with it. Lots of dealers for amd... Anymore I use goodmark, half the cost and doesn't need any more work.

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Anymore I use goodmark, half the cost and doesn't need any more work.


Half the cost for good reason.

Stock sheet metal is 18 gauge which is .050". Goodmark, Sherman, etc is .030". That's 40% thinner so considering its close to half the thickness, half the price only seems fair !!

I'll fiddle with the fit if I have to but give me original thickness metal over tin foil any day.

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Take a cutoff wheel to factory sheet metal and then to amd... it may be as thick as factory metal, but its not as strong. It goes right through amd like butter.

The goodmark floor pans I have are just as thick as amd and full quarters I used were too. I don't know if your talking about the quarter skins or what. More bad info that gets spread here.

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Well, virtually every Mopar resto shop uses AMD. There are four AMD "installation centers" I can list off the top of my head. I think that says it all. Keep using the Goodmark stuff ... whatever makes you happy!

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Yeah because they are all dealers.

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So where are all the Goodmark dealers ?!?!? Seems to me if the product was any good there'd be dealers/installers all over the place. The total lack of any says it all.

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I will source every last part I can afford and can find used or nos
The more AMD used the more cobbed together it is! bondo
And I don't care what shop does the work! laugh2
And yes some goodmark parts will fit better.


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Originally Posted By Stanton
So where are all the Goodmark dealers ?!?!? Seems to me if the product was any good there'd be dealers/installers all over the place. The total lack of any says it all.


There are plenty, they just don't come here and talk up their junk parts to make it sound better than it is.

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they just don't come here and talk up their junk parts


You said it, not me.

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Originally Posted By Stanton
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they just don't come here and talk up their junk parts


You said it, not me.



AMD or GoodMark, etc, etc, etc you take and use what you can from either mfg (FYI:AMD/Goodmark/Golden Star/etc/etc often use the same tooling/stamping vendor but alter the mat'l specs) at least you have that choice, or like we did back in the day, use rusted/busted original, or over priced NOS IF you could find it!

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Originally Posted By DAYCLONA
Originally Posted By Stanton
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they just don't come here and talk up their junk parts


You said it, not me.



AMD or GoodMark, etc, etc, etc you take and use what you can from either mfg (FYI:AMD/Goodmark/Golden Star/etc/etc often use the same tooling/stamping vendor but alter the mat'l specs) at least you have that choice, or like we did back in the day, use rusted/busted original, or over priced NOS IF you could find it!


Ed, If your looking for very nice used, I have them completely drilled off, top and bottom. These are removed very carefully. If interested, Row O125-127 at Carlisle this July. No top/bottoms here at the shop, packed away in enclosed trailer, out of town. All original panels, and will fit like a glove.

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Originally Posted By Stanton
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they just don't come here and talk up their junk parts


You said it, not me.


The fact you used an amd and had no issue with it, when they don't even have the same measurements as an original says it all about what you expect from a part. They aren't even close.

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Originally Posted By Silver70
Originally Posted By Stanton
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they just don't come here and talk up their junk parts


You said it, not me.


The fact you used an amd and had no issue with it, when they don't even have the same measurements as an original says it all about what you expect from a part. They aren't even close.


just think if he removed the whole cowl before he
figured out the part was short in that area!
that area would be cobbed up even worse then it already has to be cobbed up to begin with! laugh2
and on top of that
he even shows us pics of how crappy the part fits wink







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