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Cuda steering column help! #229548 02/19/09 08:55 AM 02/19/09 08:55 AM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 511 South Georgia tx9cuda OP mopar
tx9cuda OP mopar Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 511 South Georgia	Any tips on how to re-install the heavy signal cancelling spring on the rear of the steering wheel can?? Looks like tough task to spread it. thanks 1971 BS23H1B

Re: Cuda steering column help! [Re: tx9cuda] #229549 02/19/09 10:38 AM 02/19/09 10:38 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio Challenger 1 Too Many Posts
Challenger 1 Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio	Quote: Any tips on how to re-install the heavy signal cancelling spring on the rear of the steering wheel can?? Looks like tough task to spread it. thanks gOT ANY PICTURES?

Re: Cuda steering column help! [Re: Challenger 1] #229550 02/19/09 12:01 PM 02/19/09 12:01 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 511 South Georgia tx9cuda OP mopar
tx9cuda OP mopar Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 511 South Georgia	Quote: Quote: Any tips on how to re-install the heavy signal cancelling spring on the rear of the steering wheel can?? Looks like tough task to spread it. thanks gOT ANY PICTURES? No pics today-I'm at work. The term spring could be confusing- It is actually a heavy wire coil that wraps around the center shaft of the lower portion of the steering wheel mounting (crush can). One end of this coil turns 90 degrees and portrudes downward and actually trips (cancels)the turn signal switch as the wheel is turned. It is difficult to spread the coil to seat it on its shaft. This is where my troubles lie. If my assessment of how this works is flawed, someone please correct me. 1971 BS23H1B

Re: Cuda steering column help! [Re: tx9cuda] #229551 02/19/09 01:35 PM 02/19/09 01:35 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,850 Central Coast, Calif. S Snoopy master
Snoopy master S Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,850 Central Coast, Calif.	It just pushes on. No special tools required. Make sure the horn pickup ring is in good condition and the insulator on the back is in one piece. If it grounds out, the horn will blow. 5037362-HornContactRing&Cable.jpg (477 downloads)

Re: Cuda steering column help! [Re: Snoopy] #229552 02/19/09 02:33 PM 02/19/09 02:33 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 511 South Georgia tx9cuda OP mopar
tx9cuda OP mopar Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 511 South Georgia	Quote: It just pushes on. No special tools required. Mine will not just push on, it will need to be spread somewhat or driven into place with something. 1971 BS23H1B

Re: Cuda steering column help! [Re: tx9cuda] #229553 02/19/09 04:26 PM 02/19/09 04:26 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,850 Central Coast, Calif. S Snoopy master
Snoopy master S Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,850 Central Coast, Calif.	How about using a piece of pvc or a deep socket?

Re: Cuda steering column help! [Re: Snoopy] #229554 02/19/09 04:50 PM 02/19/09 04:50 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,984 Montreal,Quebec,Canada J JulesdaWiperman super gas
JulesdaWiperman super gas J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,984 Montreal,Quebec,Canada	I would use a press with an appropriate size socket. If you hammer away at it you may damage the crush zones, the base or the top where the studs are. Make sure like Snoopy said that the ring is in good shape. Jules

Re: Cuda steering column help! [Re: JulesdaWiperman] #229555 02/19/09 05:49 PM 02/19/09 05:49 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 511 South Georgia tx9cuda OP mopar
tx9cuda OP mopar Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 511 South Georgia	Thanks -Jules/Snoopy. 1971 BS23H1B

Re: Cuda steering column help! [Re: tx9cuda] #229556 02/22/09 03:12 AM 02/22/09 03:12 AM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,850 Central Coast, Calif. S Snoopy master
Snoopy master S Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,850 Central Coast, Calif.	Contact surface of horn pickup ring. 5043554-3488981.JPG (309 downloads)

Re: Cuda steering column help! [Re: Snoopy] #229557 02/22/09 12:17 PM 02/22/09 12:17 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 511 South Georgia tx9cuda OP mopar
tx9cuda OP mopar Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 511 South Georgia	Just to update- I did recoat the horn ring, the original coating had crumbled off. I also got the coil installed. The end of the shaft on the crush can is beveled to help start the coil. The key is to get the coil started evenly (square)using a flat surface across the coil. Then I actually used a fork that just luckily fit across the circumference of the coil-made contact 2 places 180 degrees apart. It tapped in to place easily then. You cannot use a round socket because the tang that trips the signal switch is in the way. If you had to do this a lot you would need to make a special tool for this job. thanks again 1971 BS23H1B

Re: Cuda steering column help! [Re: tx9cuda] #229558 02/22/09 05:15 PM 02/22/09 05:15 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,850 Central Coast, Calif. S Snoopy master
Snoopy master S Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,850 Central Coast, Calif.	Did you replace the coating on both sides of the pickup ring? Remember to coat the inside of the hole. The ring has to be completely insulated from any grounds except the horn button. You can test the ring with the use of an ohm meter or buzz box. Put one lead on the contact surface and the other lead on a bare metal section of the can. If you get a meter reading or a buzz, the insulation is not working and the horn will blow all the time.

Re: Cuda steering column help! [Re: Snoopy] #229559 08/21/09 09:52 AM 08/21/09 09:52 AM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 434 sweden C cuda-sweden mopar
cuda-sweden mopar C Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 434 sweden	hi guys,this is my live debut on moparts,so HEJ.anyway is that horn ring 3488981 posted in the picture by snoopy the right one for a 70 cuda?do you guys now where to get a horn ring for my honkin 70 cuda? . and what to use to recoat a bad horn ring? is glyptal a candidate for the jobb? �llrajt,over and out

Re: Cuda steering column help! [Re: Snoopy] #229560 08/21/09 10:03 AM 08/21/09 10:03 AM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,165 Florida C cataclysm80 master
cataclysm80 master C Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,165 Florida	Maybe that's what's wrong with my 70 cuda horn. Nice rimblow wheel, but have to have the horn disconnected because it honks when I hit a bump in the road. Tav

Re: Cuda steering column help! [Re: cuda-sweden] #229561 08/21/09 12:41 PM 08/21/09 12:41 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,850 Central Coast, Calif. S Snoopy master
Snoopy master S Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,850 Central Coast, Calif.	Quote: anyway is that horn ring 3488981 posted in the picture by snoopy the right one for a 70 cuda? It is not the correct one for a 70 Cuda, but it could be used if you extended the wire 3 1/2" (8.89 cm) and used shrink sleeve at the ring end where the wire passes through the crush can. The correct wire length is 10" (25.4 cm). The correct part number is 2947874.

Re: Cuda steering column help! [Re: Snoopy] #229562 08/22/09 10:39 AM 08/22/09 10:39 AM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 434 sweden C cuda-sweden mopar
cuda-sweden mopar C Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 434 sweden	thanks for the info,yesterday i bought a nos 3488981 on ebay, im going to solder on an 3.5" extension and heatshrink it at the end nearest the ring.im also going to change the upper bearing in the column and mount the orig.st.wheel with the conical edge original nuts(ebay).my car has manual steering and is a bit (glapp)lose side to side,and whenever it feels to honk the horn,it does.so im thinking this might cure the problem. ..finally,have anyone had good success recoating a horn ring?and what did you use to coat it with? and how.

Re: Cuda steering column help! [Re: cuda-sweden] #229563 08/22/09 02:40 PM 08/22/09 02:40 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,850 Central Coast, Calif. S Snoopy master
Snoopy master S Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,850 Central Coast, Calif.	I would remove the original wire at the ring and then add the extension wiring to the ring and splice it to the original wire and cover the splice and ring connection with shrink tubing. That way you will only have one splice joint. If you can locate the correct female spade connector, you could replace the entire wire and eliminate any potential problems. The male spade blade is .1875" wide and.020" thick. 4.76 mm x .5 mm. 5433587-HornContactRingConnector.jpg (215 downloads)

Re: Cuda steering column help! [Re: Snoopy] #229564 08/22/09 04:25 PM 08/22/09 04:25 PM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 434 sweden C cuda-sweden mopar
cuda-sweden mopar C Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 434 sweden	i guess the wire is soldered to the ring?hm,if my original wire is ok then maybe i could transfer that one over to the new ring.but your right, best would be to find one of those female connectors,cause as you said a new wire and its one thing less to worry about . :i dont remember ever seeing one of those horn connectors before.is it generic or a chrysler special connector?ha, this is great.next week im buying a digital camera so maybe i can contribute some to on the varios threads here.

Re: Cuda steering column help! [Re: cuda-sweden] #229565 08/22/09 06:28 PM 08/22/09 06:28 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,850 Central Coast, Calif. S Snoopy master
Snoopy master S Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,850 Central Coast, Calif.	Here is a picture of the crimp at the ring. 5433985-HornContactRingConnector2.jpg (264 downloads)

Re: Cuda steering column help! [Re: Snoopy] #229566 08/22/09 09:45 PM 08/22/09 09:45 PM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 434 sweden C cuda-sweden mopar
cuda-sweden mopar C Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 434 sweden	�llrajt.aha,it looks like those small wires within the wire is soldered together? but not soldered to the ring?in that case those tabs looks pliable? i just paid for the ebag h-ring and i wont dig into the crush can until it arrives,so its good to be prepared,thanks

Re: Cuda steering column help! Hijacked to Challenger [Re: tx9cuda] #229567 08/16/14 05:23 PM 08/16/14 05:23 PM
Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,272 Northern Calyfornua S Sxrxrnr pro stock
Sxrxrnr pro stock S Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,272 Northern Calyfornua	Quote: Any tips on how to re-install the heavy signal cancelling spring on the rear of the steering wheel can?? Looks like tough task to spread it. thanks I need to replace the copper horn slip ring on my challenger as the wire tab attached to it has broken off. To remove the old one, must remove turn signal cancel spring. My question is not how to install it, but how to remove it safely. I have grabbed with pliers no success, grabbed with vice grips,,nope but did not force hard because of breakage concern. I have marked with a file so can place back in correct position. I picked up this photo in another thread. https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/upload2/5354631-TurnSignalCamPosition.jpg Found in this old thread on how to install this spring. Must not be a popular topic. https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...amp;Search=true Hope you never have to find one of these rings. Non other currently posted anywhere. The one I did find the wire is too short and I must lengthen it. Cost a fortune for a nos one I did Bubba re-solder this wire to my ring but failed on a couple of weeks. Last edited by Sxrxrnr; 08/16/14 06:04 PM.

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