Jeep won't idle in reverse
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04/08/17 02:07 PM
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'98 Jeep Grand Cherkoee Limited, 5.2, full time 4wd.
Picked this up cheap. Had a blown engine so no ability to test drive before purchase. Swapped the engine out and it fired up, idle great, drove it around the neighborhood no problem. When it came time to back it into the driveway, it wouldn't idle in reverse. Sputters, coughs, dies, but no idle in reverse at all. Idle in park, neutral, or drive is fine.
Suggestions on things to check?
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Re: Jeep won't idle in reverse
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04/08/17 04:58 PM
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John_Kunkel
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Can you keep it running if you apply the brakes with your left foot and use the throttle to keep it running?
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Re: Jeep won't idle in reverse
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04/09/17 02:52 PM
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John_Kunkel
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The transmission line pressure increases by a factor of 3 in Reverse, this adds to the engine's load so an engine with tuneup problems might not run correctly with the added load of the transmission pump and could stall.
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Re: Jeep won't idle in reverse
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The transmission line pressure increases by a factor of 3 in Reverse, this adds to the engine's load so an engine with tuneup problems might not run correctly with the added load of the transmission pump and could stall.
Wow---that's pretty obscure stuff John! Never heard of that. So it's possible for idle in reverse to be a bit lower than in drive? Interesting. Learn something every day.
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Re: Jeep won't idle in reverse
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04/10/17 01:38 PM
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Guitar Jones
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Yeah, pressure is high in reverse. This can cause fluid to bypass some seals. Sounds like the torque converter clutch is being applied, at least partially. This could be a converter problem or it could be in the trans. I seriously doubt it would be wiring related.
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Re: Jeep won't idle in reverse
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04/11/17 01:38 PM
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Guitar Jones
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Nearly anything is possible. 42 years in this business and I still see stuff I've never seen before. I don't think it's misalignment and blowing the cooler lines out probably won't help. It wouldn't hurt to check the cooler flow though. Even if that caused a seal to bypass fluid the damage is probably already done and it will need to be repaired.
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'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion. '74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion. 2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
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Re: Jeep won't idle in reverse
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04/13/17 12:36 AM
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71yelladustr
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Check crank sensor for intermittent signal. I had a Ram pickup so this same thing a few years ago and found the CKP to be defective.
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Re: Jeep won't idle in reverse
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04/14/17 12:41 AM
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X2 with Guitar Jones. One thing to look at is the trans converter engaging. Try feathering the gas in a parking lot and see if the Jeep takes off like a stick shift truck,it may take a few times. You must understand hyd pressure hold OFF the converter clutch any low line pressure from wear plus reverse needing more pressure adds to a drop in pressure enough to cause the clutch to engage and stall the engine. BTW it's not a faulty converter it would be a wear problem most of the time in the frt pump area. IMO
Last edited by SALEM1912; 04/14/17 12:46 AM.
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