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rack and pinion on dart #2281216
04/02/17 11:11 PM
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Has any one here put rack and pinion steering on a dart and if so what did you use beside one of the high dollar kits.

Re: rack and pinion on dart [Re: dartphil] #2281235
04/02/17 11:37 PM
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If you installed a kit from Unisteer, you could change your screen name to "Dart with bumpsteer and wider turning radius Phil".

Re: rack and pinion on dart [Re: dartphil] #2281409
04/03/17 10:41 AM
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Well, the year would help. New ones come with rack and pinion.

Early ones are narrower than later ones, so the kits should be different.

Myself, I would probably go with a cavalier center pivot rack and keep it rear steer.


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Re: rack and pinion on dart [Re: dartphil] #2281477
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Where is Monty Smith when you need him.

Dartphil if you search Monty he had a few good tricks to go with rack and Pinion. I would love to do it on my dart sport but just to chicken to do it. It does sound easy but I am afraid of the bump steer problems


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Re: rack and pinion on dart [Re: dartphil] #2281736
04/03/17 05:27 PM
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Quote:
Myself, I would probably go with a cavalier center pivot rack and keep it rear steer.


You have my interest ... tell me (us) more. Chev Cavalier ?? Year ?? What other info can you provide.

Re: rack and pinion on dart [Re: dartphil] #2281757
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Re: rack and pinion on dart [Re: dartphil] #2282094
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One of the big problems is getting a correct inner width rack to work with any of the fronts. I have only worked with early A fronts, and a narrowed rack measuring 4 1/2 inch less than stock barely got me to where I needed to be for proper bump steer. That rack came from one of the race car builders/suppliers. The narrowed rack also moves the steering shaft in over two inches, which can cause a hassle , as I found out trying to get it set up for a GenIII Hemi. The correct width also establishes proper Ackerman angle, which is important for a street car but can be less in a race car if you don't mind a couple of issues when not going staight. By the time you engineer the whole deal should you choose to build your own, IMHO you are as well off if you go to a Mustang II deal, or a strut front. Carefully compare costs versus benefits for your project. I have done two of them, one race ,one street. I posted the street build project on ForABodysOnly. Search posts by gregsdart

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Re: rack and pinion on dart [Re: dartphil] #2282102
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Nice thing about the Cavalier rack is that you set the width.


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