Re: FUN INDY FACT
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03/04/17 03:53 PM
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crabman173
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I am telling you --last few sets of heads and now this block the decks were cut with two passes--just stupid!! last set of heads had a .003 step In my shop I surface used ragged heads when a .002 will slip under a straight edge--just stupid to pay for new heads that were done in "shop class" and have TWO different "levels'
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Re: FUN INDY FACT
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03/04/17 05:54 PM
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Were those last sets of heads with the poor surface finish "assembled" heads or "bare" heads?
When I get bare heads from Indy, they don't come with a "finished" deck surface. The finish on the assembled heads has been fine.
68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
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Re: FUN INDY FACT
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03/05/17 08:53 AM
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Maybe the next owners will take more pride in the product. Birdtracker Is it being sold?
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Re: FUN INDY FACT
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03/05/17 11:48 AM
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Yes, there is talk " on the street" some notable folks were interested. If its true, lets just say they wont have a lack of funds, and lack of ability if they want to do something.I dont know how it will affect pricing, but I think everything else will change for the better. Have to wait and see.
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Re: FUN INDY FACT
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03/05/17 11:55 AM
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Of course ymmv, but of the 4 bb mopar "finished, ready to assemble" aluminum blocks I've used(3 world, 1 Indy), only the Indy block didn't need any reworking prior to assembly.
68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
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Re: FUN INDY FACT
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03/05/17 02:25 PM
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Repeat 'shop class' machine work for the money OK it is a block "Kit" ok fine I admit, I get a Dart block out da box and yea--we work on it some--BUT...if I was a numb nuts in my garage and washed it and put it together it will do fine---
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Re: FUN INDY FACT
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03/05/17 04:44 PM
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The World blocks I used had the "no name" main studs, and on two of them they wouldn't torque up to their spec(which is quite a bit lower than the arp spec). So, buy new arp stud kit, TQ to arp spec, mains out of round, crank just locks up. Have to line hone mains.
Check cylinder bores...... Sizing is "okay"...... It's usable...... Except they didn't set the stroke on the honing machine correctly, and the bottom 3/8" of the bore has zero honing marks and is .005 undersize. Luckily I checked this prior to ordering pistons........ Cuz you can't just hone the bottom 3/8" of the bore. By the time I get the bottom opened up, and get it all straight again, the bores are .0025" oversize. I ordered pistons to fit the new bore size, but had I "assumed" I could use the block at the "finished" 4.500 size I would have been screwed.
The two blocks I got from Bill Mitchell's were both like this(a few years ago now). The third one came from somewhere else, and it was a real mess all around.
One off friends has a CNC block machining center and he does all kinds of blocks for several shops in his area......... He tells me about 1/2 the time they're not really all that great in terms of sizing, finish, true to blueprint specs, etc.
It's just another mass produced part........ Inspect/adjust/tweak as req'd before use.
68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
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Re: FUN INDY FACT
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03/05/17 05:47 PM
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I also heard yesterday Indy might be sold. I also heard Bulldog is back and casting Hemi blocks now. Casting is supposedly being done in Indiana, and someone who got burned before is bankrolling it.
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Re: FUN INDY FACT
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03/06/17 05:17 PM
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Could not agree more with what Monte said. I don't think anyone making a race block will tell you to assemble it as we deliver it and go. At least not off the record.
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Re: FUN INDY FACT
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03/06/17 11:00 PM
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Man I am OK with it I have seen heads this year that had the "two step" line down the middle where it was two different levels from what looked like two passes--then at a friends the other day I saw the block with the same deal--again I say I have never bought any other heads that were new and needed surfacing so be it with Indy I don't care
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