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Strongly thinking about Double Beadlocks #2227311
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Since last year our 68 Dart has transformed into a full racecar and now is not realistically able to be on the street anymore, I am seriously contemplating going to double beadlocks.
I am just a ET chaser and have no desire to run points or be in any series as of now.
But my question is, will I lose ET by going from a 15 x 12 rear wheel to a double bead lock wheel since I'm adding a bunch of weight to the wheel?
Is there any cons to a double beadlock other than than the high cost of them
Spending a ton of money on beadlocks only to go slower.
Any input on this since I found a pair locally that I want to buy.

Re: Strongly thinking about Double Beadlocks [Re: Sammy] #2227365
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He weight is a con as well. They will make the wheel a fair amount heavier. If this is a moderately powered car that alone may slow it down a fair bit. If it is a big power car you may fine little difference.


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Re: Strongly thinking about Double Beadlocks [Re: Sammy] #2227421
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I would just glue them. We've been 1.13 in x275 trim at 3200lbs with my buddies radial car with just high tac.


They do look cool, and make changing tires so much easier.

Re: Strongly thinking about Double Beadlocks [Re: Sammy] #2227501
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1.16 with glue, just now stepping up to Double beadlocks, 3250

Re: Strongly thinking about Double Beadlocks [Re: Sammy] #2227504
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Keep in mind the inner diameter of the DBL rim in comparison to your drums or brake caliper.

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Re: Strongly thinking about Double Beadlocks [Re: hemi-itis] #2227671
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Originally Posted By hemi-itis
Keep in mind the inner diameter of the DBL rim in comparison to your drums or brake caliper.

Not many cars with drum brakes out there needing beadlocks! LOL


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Re: Strongly thinking about Double Beadlocks [Re: hemi-itis] #2227735
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Originally Posted By hemi-itis
Keep in mind the inner diameter of the DBL rim in comparison to your drums or brake caliper.



How much were those bead locks Hemitis?
Those are very nice.
I'd like to sell my centerline warriors and go to 4 of those. Very nice addition.

Re: Strongly thinking about Double Beadlocks [Re: DusterDave] #2255135
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Originally Posted By DusterDave
Originally Posted By hemi-itis
Keep in mind the inner diameter of the DBL rim in comparison to your drums or brake caliper.

Not many cars with drum brakes out there needing beadlocks! LOL

I certainly don't need them! smoke


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Re: Strongly thinking about Double Beadlocks [Re: Sammy] #2255140
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Originally Posted By Sammy
Originally Posted By hemi-itis
Keep in mind the inner diameter of the DBL rim in comparison to your drums or brake caliper.



How much were those bead locks Hemitis?
Those are very nice.
I'd like to sell my centerline warriors and go to 4 of those. Very nice addition.

Sammy,put up pic of your car.I have some friends that live in that area,maybe you guys could meet at the track.I'd like to see those warriors on the car scope


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Re: Strongly thinking about Double Beadlocks [Re: Sammy] #2255152
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I wouldn't do it if I was you. There aren't many pro's. As Al said they are heavy. You need to recheck the torque on the bolts. Beadlock tires can be a lot heavier too. You are just caught up in the moment. Take 2 aspirin and call me in the morning. The money is best spent on something else.


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I went from Weld Draglites w/ Goodyear 32X15X15 to American Racing Trakstar 16X16 Dbl.beadlocks w/ M/T 33X10.5WX16 and LOST 5lbs.!

Re: Strongly thinking about Double Beadlocks [Re: rickseeman] #2255362
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Originally Posted By rickseeman
I wouldn't do it if I was you. There aren't many pro's. As Al said they are heavy. You need to recheck the torque on the bolts. Beadlock tires can be a lot heavier too. You are just caught up in the moment. Take 2 aspirin and call me in the morning. The money is best spent on something else.
They are not that much heavier. No you do NOT have to constantly check the torque on the bolts and there is no such thing as a bead lock specific tire

Re: Strongly thinking about Double Beadlocks [Re: Sammy] #2255807
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This is the current Goodyear Drag Catalog. The beadlock tires are noted.

http://www.racegoodyear.com/tires/pdf/Goodyear_Drag_Catalog_2015.pdf

You don't have to constantly check the torque on anything but my beadlock rings would get loose pretty quick. I was properly torquing them with the recommended lube.


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The tire itself is not a special designed tire for beadlocks, but that size it is required because beadlocks anchor the tire better then any rim screw or high tack.

As for your bolts coming loose, what brand beadlocks do you have? Some are better then others.


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Re: Strongly thinking about Double Beadlocks [Re: Sammy] #2255832
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I have double bead locks with drums, had to machine a little off the ridge on the drum to clear the inner bead lock. My car is slow but my wheels look better than yours. Weight wise if you compare apples to apples [ same rim with and without ] yes the bead locks are heavier. Thats the only way you can compare . Different manufacturer, different style all weigh different . Mount / dismount your own tires, it's fairly easy.


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Re: Strongly thinking about Double Beadlocks [Re: rowin4] #2255843
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Originally Posted By rowin4
Mount / dismount your own tires, it's fairly easy.


you had me sold here! laugh2 I've been known to spend money for "easy".

Re: Strongly thinking about Double Beadlocks [Re: Sammy] #2255969
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Champion wheels had some you can get single and double and sfi safe for up to 199mph, alot cheaper then welds. It's championbillet.com if you want to check them out.

Re: Strongly thinking about Double Beadlocks [Re: hemi-itis] #2256390
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Originally Posted By hemi-itis
Originally Posted By Sammy
Originally Posted By hemi-itis
Keep in mind the inner diameter of the DBL rim in comparison to your drums or brake caliper.



How much were those bead locks Hemitis?
Those are very nice.
I'd like to sell my centerline warriors and go to 4 of those. Very nice addition.

Sammy,put up pic of your car.I have some friends that live in that area,maybe you guys could meet at the track.I'd like to see those warriors on the car scope


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Re: Strongly thinking about Double Beadlocks [Re: J_BODY] #2256519
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Originally Posted By J_BODY
Originally Posted By rowin4
Mount / dismount your own tires, it's fairly easy.


you had me sold here! laugh2 I've been known to spend money for "easy".


+1 just to not have to deal with the tire shop people. I'm either going double beadlock or buying my own tire machine... maybe both.

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My car doesn't need them but I seriously have the want for a set of DB wheels, I just think they look the dogs danglies ! grin


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