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Fuel tank mods to improve fuel scavaging.
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02/13/17 12:57 AM
02/13/17 12:57 AM
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I am running a larger than stock stainless tank I designed and had built by Rick's Tanks a few years ago. It holds just shy of 30 gallons and fits in the stock location. It had used a -12AN tube to suck fuel out of the tank and there are internal baffles to control fuel slosh while driving.
The problem I had was that my fuel pump would create a vortex in the fuel and start sucking air once the tank got below 3/4 full. Its essentially the same effect when you drain your bath tube. This caused the pump to work harder and cavitate. It took me a while to figure out what was going on.
I thought about how to have a street friendly fuel system that would be able to use most of the fuel in the tank without sucking air. Especially during hard launches and cornering. I initially looked at baffled fuel traps like they use in road course cars, and then looked at snowmobile style pick-ups in all four corners. I even thought about using a Cadillac CTSV fuel module, but was unable to find a way to pulse width modulate the set-up to use with my low pressure carbureted motor.
I finally came upon a 2 speed pump from Fuelabs and a pair of Holley Hydramats. I wanted to use a larger single Hydramat, but my tank had a baffle right in the middle of it. I was able to fit two Hydramats of 11" x 11" and a 15" x 15" in my tank, which covered the floor of my fuel tank and a few inches of the front and back walls of the tank.
The fuel pump runs at a low speed until triggered to switch to high speed by a simple open closed switch. I will hook that up to my secondary's with a on/off NO2 style switch. Once the secondary's begin to open, the switch will close and trigger the high speed operation of the pump. I run a full bypass regulator with an -10AN feed and return. The pump I chose flows 160 GPH at around 15 psi.
I sourced a nice Filler Plate set with nut-ring and some 3/4" submersible fuel line from Harmon Racing cells, so that I could cut an opening in my tank and make the modifications. The set-up I choose should be able to supply plenty of fuel with no air intrusion at a very low resistance to the pump.
Here are some pictures of the Hydramat install in my tank. I decided to mount the fuel pump outside the tank for easier access/maintenance.
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's 1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
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Re: Fuel tank mods to improve fuel scavaging.
[Re: jbc426]
#2252730
02/13/17 01:12 AM
02/13/17 01:12 AM
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RMCHRGR
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Silly question but do you have a sump in the tank?
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Re: Fuel tank mods to improve fuel scavaging.
[Re: RMCHRGR]
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02/13/17 03:00 AM
02/13/17 03:00 AM
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jbc426
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Silly question but do you have a sump in the tank? No sump. Those are old school these days.
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's 1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
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Re: Fuel tank mods to improve fuel scavaging.
[Re: jbc426]
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02/13/17 05:42 AM
02/13/17 05:42 AM
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run the return line so it fills the area of the hydro mat.
1968 Charger COLD A/C Hilborn EFI 512ci 9.7 compression, Stealth heads, 4.10 gear A518 ODtrans 4100lb,10.93 full street car trim 2020 T/A 392 Stock 11.79 @ 114.5
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Re: Fuel tank mods to improve fuel scavaging.
[Re: CSK]
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02/13/17 07:43 AM
02/13/17 07:43 AM
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run the return line so it fills the area of the hydro mat. Yes, The directions from Holley are very specific about this. I just forgot to get a picture of it before I buttoned it up. A 3/4" return comes down next to the pick-up feed, "T"s and drops it an inch above and next to both the mat outlets.
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's 1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
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