Re: 36-1 crank trigger for EFI
[Re: AndyF]
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Nice. I really like the pulley center and attention to balance. It's difficult to see from the picture angle, but it looks like it should be a little larger. Many sensors require 1/2" of distance from rotating ferrous materials.
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Re: 36-1 crank trigger for EFI
[Re: Stanton]
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Very nice , two things, since its obviously steel and CNC, how tough would it be to add a ring of lightening holes, if for nothing else, eye candy, and what thickness are the teeth?
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Re: 36-1 crank trigger for EFI
[Re: AndyF]
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It's great to see some higher quality EFI components for the Mopar contingency I'd like to hear the justification for a billet wheel versus a laser cut or waterjet cut unit out of 1/8 plate at a fraction of the cost. Eye candy - yuh, that's about it !! Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking Andy's product. But like the billet valve covers, I don't see the point.
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Re: 36-1 crank trigger for EFI
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It's great to see some higher quality EFI components for the Mopar contingency I'd like to hear the justification for a billet wheel versus a laser cut or waterjet cut unit out of 1/8 plate at a fraction of the cost. Eye candy - yuh, that's about it !! Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking Andy's product. But like the billet valve covers, I don't see the point. There will always be cost to benefit debates. I make my own trigger wheels(very economical), but if you put mine next to Andy's and asked me which one I want, I'd grab Andy's and run!
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Re: 36-1 crank trigger for EFI
[Re: Mopar_Rich]
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It's great to see some higher quality EFI components for the Mopar contingency. Have you considered special V pulleys to compensate for the thickness? Doty makes a pulley that is the correct height to work with an ATI damper and this trigger wheel. I don't have a picture of it but I mocked it up and the alignment is pretty close.
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Re: 36-1 crank trigger for EFI
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Nice. I really like the pulley center and attention to balance. It's difficult to see from the picture angle, but it looks like it should be a little larger. Many sensors require 1/2" of distance from rotating ferrous materials. It is possible that it needs to be larger, we'll see. I'm running an aluminum shell on the ATI damper so I think this will work just fine. The damper is 7 inches diameter and the wheel is 7 3/4 so there should be enough of a gap for the trigger to work. Working with billet steel allows me to machine the center and add the other 3D features. I put a dot at the TDC tooth and scribed a line for the sensor tooth. I designed it per the Holley instructions so at TDC the sensor is on the 7th tooth after the gap.
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Re: 36-1 crank trigger for EFI
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It's great to see some higher quality EFI components for the Mopar contingency I'd like to hear the justification for a billet wheel versus a laser cut or waterjet cut unit out of 1/8 plate at a fraction of the cost. Eye candy - yuh, that's about it !! Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking Andy's product. But like the billet valve covers, I don't see the point. Weight, if done right, you can get a billet cover lighter than any fabricated cover.
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Re: 36-1 crank trigger for EFI
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It's great to see some higher quality EFI components for the Mopar contingency I'd like to hear the justification for a billet wheel versus a laser cut or waterjet cut unit out of 1/8 plate at a fraction of the cost. Eye candy - yuh, that's about it !! Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking Andy's product. But like the billet valve covers, I don't see the point. Not exactly correct. The main reason the 36-2 wheel is not real popular is because they are thin and flex in higher HP applications. We had to do some machining and weld 3 of the thin ones together to get ours to work consistently. We finally just opted to put a flying magnet on ours with the hall effect sensor and be done with it. Which is fine if you run a cam sensor. The advantage of the 36-2 is that it can detect number one cylinder approaching. That is what the gap is for. This allows you to run sequential without a cam sensor
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Re: 36-1 crank trigger for EFI
[Re: AndyF]
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That's a healthy tooth thickness at .370", since the signal is just a s/N ratio issue, with alum damper shell, a larger dia reluctor, and fact others use .125" and .187" thickness rotors, this should be pretty solid signal platform. I am puzzled how Monte senses #1 TDC without a cam sensor, or is it a wasted spark set-up non sequential?
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Re: 36-1 crank trigger for EFI
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AndyF, I need this for small block Mopar, please tell me you are making it for small block also?
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Re: 36-1 crank trigger for EFI
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BB and small block should be the same. Maybe different diameter balancer options?
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Re: 36-1 crank trigger for EFI
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That looks very nice! If you have one with the 6 bolt pattern on it I will probably get one of those. I have a Morosso crank pulley and it is no big deal to chuck it on a friends mill and shave some more off of the back of it.
I have a very thin laser cut wheel a friend of mine made for me. It works great but it is thinner than anything on the market. The only time I have had a sync loss problem was when I moved my stuff over to my current engine and did not recheck sensor gap.
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