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Re: Bad roll bar install? Should I cut it back out?
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02/03/17 03:13 PM
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I cant beleive some of what's being said.
$1,400 hundred for a tigged cm cage? That should steer you away.
Great points made on vision. My welds had gotten awesome. Then started getting where table work was the only good work I could do. A 200 cheater lense and bam doing a lot better. But, laying on your back in places you can barely reach a cheater lense is junk.
I have started a job and just couldn't beleive the bad results. Then realize I forgot to vent the tube. Or wash the tube, or a had the wrong tungsten. I see people commenting on welds sometimes that couldn't lay a mig bead on 1/4" plate straight. Thin wall tubing can be tough. But, if you can't quit and find out why.
Stand up thing to give your money back.The hoop looked OK. But definitely a heat and contamination problem. The bar to subframe says it all. When the weld ran away from joint. It's a vision problem. Getting old sucks.
Last edited by Leon441; 02/03/17 03:14 PM.
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Re: Bad roll bar install? Should I cut it back out?
[Re: Leon441]
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02/03/17 06:27 PM
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I cant beleive some of what's being said.
$1,400 hundred for a tigged cm cage? That should steer you away.
Great points made on vision. My welds had gotten awesome. Then started getting where table work was the only good work I could do. A 200 cheater lense and bam doing a lot better. But, laying on your back in places you can barely reach a cheater lense is junk.
I have started a job and just couldn't beleive the bad results. Then realize I forgot to vent the tube. Or wash the tube, or a had the wrong tungsten. I see people commenting on welds sometimes that couldn't lay a mig bead on 1/4" plate straight. Thin wall tubing can be tough. But, if you can't quit and find out why.
Stand up thing to give your money back.The hoop looked OK. But definitely a heat and contamination problem. The bar to subframe says it all. When the weld ran away from joint. It's a vision problem. Getting old sucks. Getting old sucks. Found the same with cheaters. I now have trifocals I wear all the time and damn I see much better. Hoping this helps with my welding some.
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Re: Bad roll bar install? Should I cut it back out?
[Re: Leon441]
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02/03/17 08:18 PM
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I cant beleive some of what's being said.
$1,400 hundred for a tigged cm cage? That should steer you away.
Great points made on vision. My welds had gotten awesome. Then started getting where table work was the only good work I could do. A 200 cheater lense and bam doing a lot better. But, laying on your back in places you can barely reach a cheater lense is junk.
I have started a job and just couldn't beleive the bad results. Then realize I forgot to vent the tube. Or wash the tube, or a had the wrong tungsten. I see people commenting on welds sometimes that couldn't lay a mig bead on 1/4" plate straight. Thin wall tubing can be tough. But, if you can't quit and find out why.
Stand up thing to give your money back.The hoop looked OK. But definitely a heat and contamination problem. The bar to subframe says it all. When the weld ran away from joint. It's a vision problem. Getting old sucks. Help me out here, I have the 2.0s in helmet and 2.0 glasses but it's hard to see the joint, too dark. Never had this problem before, adjustment problem of the hat or time to get a new one? Thought about using a halogen light but does that mess with auto-dimmer? Ready to weld up the car and don't want a mess.
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Re: Bad roll bar install? Should I cut it back out?
[Re: cudaman1969]
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02/03/17 11:30 PM
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"Visual acuity alone is not a good predictor of a person's degree of visual difficulty. Someone with relatively good acuity (e.g., 20/40) can have difficulty functioning, while someone with worse acuity (e.g., 20/100) might not experience any significant functional problems. Other visual factors, such as poor depth perception, limited side vision, extreme sensitivity to lights and glare, and reduced color perception, can also limit a person's ability to do everyday tasks." http://www.aoa.org/patients-and-public/g...rs-of-age?sso=yNearing retirement age, I am surprised how positive a daily multi vitamin improves matters ( Vitamin A?). I have read that by age 40, the average person has lost nearly 50% of their night vision, but it happens very slowly, and we adjust, and I think that is a factor seeing in welding between the bright light and darker areas when welding.
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: Bad roll bar install? Should I cut it back out?
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02/03/17 11:36 PM
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If you have an auto darkening helmet, you can adjust it down so that it stays a bit lighter. I have mine set usually around 10+/-.
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Re: Bad roll bar install? Should I cut it back out?
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02/04/17 12:04 AM
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I have adjusted between 9 & 12 but not much difference Might try a 100 watt shop light, standard incandescent I'm using the newer tungsten electrode (can't remember the name) thought that might be the problem Of course it might just be me. 
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Re: Bad roll bar install? Should I cut it back out?
[Re: Porter67]
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02/04/17 12:06 AM
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Thought about using a halogen light but does that mess with auto-dimmer?
You can actually burn your eyes just being close to the halogen light even if you dont look at it....dont ask me how I know. I think the age issue is mainly about relative contrast, so a bright light that lightens the relatively dark areas when welding can only help. No matter what, the only downside to extra lighting is the helmet darkens, with no harm to eyes. You do have to be careful in keeping spill light from getting to inside of helmet lens, as then you are just looking at a bright reflection, with no gain.  edit: changing the lens darkness setting does not adjust what I think is the age culprit, too much contrast.
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Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: Bad roll bar install? Should I cut it back out?
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02/05/17 03:34 PM
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The fact that he gave you a complete refund is admirable, slightly weird he wanted to cut it out himself though. Anyway, here's some advice from someone who has built a cage himself. I bought a S&W cage kit for an e-body. The stuff was cut and bent very nicely. Make sure to have the door and rear interior panels installed along with door handles and window cranks. Also seat needs to be installed because according to rule books, the side bar has to be installed pretty accurately based on driver location. I don't see how anyone can do that without the seats......but I don't do this for a living. He claimed he didn't need the seats or anything, but you can bet I'm taking everything with the car when it goes to B&B Race Cars later this month... I also thought it was weird that he wanted to cut it out himself. He was more of a butt before another customer showed up (a guy who turned out to be a mutual acquaintance) than he was afterward - when he pretty much just kept to himself and cut it out. I was kinda glad the other guy showed up, it probably kept the situation a little more civil. Gotta give him credit for the refund, which he also gave me after the other customer got there. Very awkward for all involved, to say the least.
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Re: Bad roll bar install? Should I cut it back out?
[Re: 300by500]
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02/05/17 03:38 PM
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Probably wanted to keep the evidence of poor quality work from being passed around. Very good that he gave you a refund, and he did save you some work.
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with this ^^^the guy's rep. was on the line.