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Re: BROKEN INTAKE VALVE SPRINGS? [Re: second 70] #2242539
01/27/17 11:31 PM
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Ok, don't want to highjack this post, but you guys have me worried! I have 5,477 miles on my strickly street HEMI. I run a Comp Cams street HEMI solid roller. Comp #24-000-9. 248/254 @ .050, gross lift .604/.591. The MSD has a chip of 6,400 rpm and I have never revved it past 6,200.
Springs are Comp #953-16. I have tried to find pressures, all I have been able to come up with is #162/#484. Do I need to worry about spring replacement?
This is a STREET roller, supposedly designed to live on the street. Isky Bushed lifters, oil fed, stock rockers and valves. Stock oil to the upper end.
With MP aluminum heads, I adjust the valves every 1,000 miles at .010/.012 cold, .016/.018 hot.
So do I need to change the springs, or are my low pressure/rpm good to go for another season of driving the car?

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Re: BROKEN INTAKE VALVE SPRINGS? [Re: 68HEMIRR] #2242733
01/28/17 12:23 PM
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Might want to call Pac direct and see what they say


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Re: BROKEN INTAKE VALVE SPRINGS? [Re: Hemi ragtop] #2242765
01/28/17 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted By Hemi ragtop
Ok, don't want to highjack this post, but you guys have me worried! I have 5,477 miles on my strickly street HEMI. I run a Comp Cams street HEMI solid roller. Comp #24-000-9. 248/254 @ .050, gross lift .604/.591. The MSD has a chip of 6,400 rpm and I have never revved it past 6,200.
Springs are Comp #953-16. I have tried to find pressures, all I have been able to come up with is #162/#484. Do I need to worry about spring replacement?
This is a STREET roller, supposedly designed to live on the street. Isky Bushed lifters, oil fed, stock rockers and valves. Stock oil to the upper end.
With MP aluminum heads, I adjust the valves every 1,000 miles at .010/.012 cold, .016/.018 hot.
So do I need to change the springs, or are my low pressure/rpm good to go for another season of driving the car?


It seems those springs are working for you, but they definitely aren't what I would have used.
In the Comp catalog, looking through listings for their street roller cams, where the 953 is listed as the spring of choice........ It's listed as the base spring..... Not the premium option.
The premium option for the 953 is the 938.
The specs for the 938 are 204 @ 1.900/ 492 @ 1.300.
99% of the time, this will be the minimum pressures I like to see in a BB application with a mild roller cam.
My spring of preference when looking to meet those specs is the Isky 9315.
210 @ 1.900/500 @ 1.300, and .100 more distance from coil bind at 1.300 than the 938.

I guess my advice for you would be the same as the other poster above...... Pop a couple out, have them tested, look all the associated parts over and make a decision based on what you find.

A PAC alternative would be a 1227; 225 @ 1.900/525 @ 1.300.


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Re: BROKEN INTAKE VALVE SPRINGS? [Re: 68HEMIRR] #2243471
01/29/17 05:37 PM
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If you are running that high of pressure then look at every aspect of your valve train,springs,locks,retainers and valves should be change at a schudled interval as well as guides and seats along with a fresh valve job.Hemis tend to be hard on valve train componants.

Re: BROKEN INTAKE VALVE SPRINGS? [Re: B G Racing] #2244589
01/31/17 11:55 AM
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iagree The first time I freshened up my hemi, the valve stems were worn out. Luckily, new valves tightened it right up and I ran it like that for a few more years. The next freshen up it needed new valves again as well as guides. I just had bronze liners installed in the original guides, instead of driving out the old ones and putting new ones in. Worked great.

This last time, I did not put valve seals on the exhaust valves. Thinking maybe that will help somewhat w/ oiling the stems. Still have em on the intake though.


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Re: BROKEN INTAKE VALVE SPRINGS? [Re: 68HEMIRR] #2244627
01/31/17 01:05 PM
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yep.....did the same thing....all new valves/springs/pressed in bronze valve guides/seals and lapped in the valves


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