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Re: OK.... Back from vacation..... 11.50@ Norwalk... Rules help [Re: G-Money1320] #2242812
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Originally Posted By G-Money1320
I like the pro tree idea, I have never done it and im sure most havent so it will be a new fun thing to raz/brag to each other about in the pits!!


I did pro tree for the first time last year. It's very hard to get used to with a foot brake car, but it was really fun because it was different! I tried it first at Milan at a T&T and then the Roadkill event in Pontiac was a pro tree.

I'm all for it, it will for sure mix things up.

As for the razzing....you'll do that to me anyway. LOL.

Re: OK.... Back from vacation..... 11.50@ Norwalk... Rules help [Re: B3422W5] #2242813
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Originally Posted By B3422W5

.500 pro tree
11.50 index
No transbrake
Two steps for stick cars only to launch
No line lock use except to do a burnout, the intent is to have this be off the foot.
No deep staging
Courtesy staging in effect, no disqualification if you don't, but respect your fellow racer as a good sport and don't get in until both top bulbs are lit.
2 qualifying shots, at least one must be 11.50 or slower, under on both your out. I want to put this in because guys with cars that are way faster than 11.50 who will invariably enter should have it figured out to run 11.50 by the second pass in qualifying. If not, you don't get in the show.10.0 used to have this same rule, it bit me as luck would have it...
No throttle stops or air shifting


I like these rules! Thanks again.

Re: OK.... Back from vacation..... 11.50@ Norwalk... Rules help [Re: B3422W5] #2242822
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Sorry...... In the rules, I should have said guys...... And gals

My apologies DusterGirl340


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Re: OK.... Back from vacation..... 11.50@ Norwalk... Rules help [Re: B3422W5] #2242847
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LOL, I didn't even notice! It's all good.

Re: OK.... Back from vacation..... 11.50@ Norwalk... Rules help [Re: B3422W5] #2242878
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Sounds like you guys and girls are in for a good time. Have FUN.

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Re: OK.... Back from vacation..... 11.50@ Norwalk... Rules help [Re: OUTLAWD] #2242880
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Originally Posted By OUTLAWD
Sounds fun. Pro tree is a challenge on a footbrake street car, but it adds to the fun. Now to find a tenth...



I think it sounds like fun too, and I'll be looking for a tenth or two also. drive
let see, remove front bumper, back seat,50# tool box from trunk, 1/4 tank of fuel. I\m half way there.

Re: OK.... Back from vacation..... 11.50@ Norwalk... Rules help [Re: Mr340] #2243013
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Pro tree with a stick car can be a challenge but I'm up for it. Now I just have to plan my vacation time and get a few passes on the new drivetrain before then.
Thanks again to Don for sponsoring this class it should be filled with some fast "real" street cars.
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Re: OK.... Back from vacation..... 11.50@ Norwalk... Rules help [Re: B3422W5] #2243018
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Originally Posted By B3422W5

I yanked all my belts off to run 11.66 in good air. Gonna go manual steering, electric water pump and fan. That will get me back to 11.60's. Not sure I am gonna have any more than that. Especially in summer air.
I do have one secret weapon, trying my old 950 dyno carb against the pro systems 950 I bought and ran the 66 with
I think the dyno carb is better.... But it's uglier.. Lol
Will swap them after I get it out this spring and try back to back testing....... Maybe I will try and put Pat Norton behind the wheel, he is probably 150 pounds soaking wet, that should be a solid tenth and a half over my 310..lol


Like the others said, thanks for stepping up to support this.

I ran 11.62-11.64 last year during DragWeek on pumpgas...Maybe I'll stick to the diet this year, and if I have to pour in some good gas and bump up the timing. I was planning a head swap, just not sure its in the cards this year...


Faster, Faster until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death...

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Re: OK.... Back from vacation..... 11.50@ Norwalk... Rules help [Re: OUTLAWD] #2245060
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New rule: No soaking wet 130# substitute drivers allowed!! whistling Thanks Don for putting this class into the mix, it should be a lot of fun as we have watched the 10.0 guys for years enjoying!! up


416 stroker from Nick at Compu-flow. 11.14 in full street trim. Seems like a new best every time out.
11.06 open headers----so far!!
Re: OK.... Back from vacation..... 11.50@ Norwalk... Rules help [Re: G-Money1320] #2245073
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Originally Posted By G-Money1320
New rule: No soaking wet 130# substitute drivers allowed!! whistling Thanks Don for putting this class into the mix, it should be a lot of fun as we have watched the 10.0 guys for years enjoying!! up


I am gonna try to lose some weight. In fact I have to. Gonna get hip replaced this coming fall. But if I didn't have a single bite to eat before Norwalk, Norton is still a tenth and a half over me if I can snag him to drive.... Lol
My car would go whew, that monster is out of the drivers seat.....


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Re: OK.... Back from vacation..... 11.50@ Norwalk... Rules help [Re: G-Money1320] #2245368
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Originally Posted By G-Money1320
New rule: No soaking wet 130# substitute drivers allowed!! whistling


dammit!

Re: OK.... Back from vacation..... 11.50@ Norwalk... Rules help [Re: B3422W5] #2256148
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Don,

Thanks again and I don't see an issue with any of the rules at this point


I am updating the website now and will have a news letter out to the mailing list and on social media soon -



The only question I would have is what day would we like to run this on? We can run it in conjunction with the 10.0 and regular scheduled classes on Saturday or we can make it a Friday Night Race

Re: OK.... Back from vacation..... 11.50@ Norwalk... Rules help [Re: B3422W5] #2256175
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Good question Josh.
Fri night sounds good, but I know a lot of people don't show up till Sat morning. So unsure what would be the best way to go.
Probably lean to doing it along with 10.0 on Sat night back to back with them


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Best so far, low 10.30’s 1/4
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Re: OK.... Back from vacation..... 11.50@ Norwalk... Rules help [Re: B3422W5] #2256303
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Hey for what it's worth I weigh 185 with the suit for anybody looking for a driver.
Doug

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For what it's worth I weigh way less than 185. heh heh...

Re: OK.... Back from vacation..... 11.50@ Norwalk... Rules help [Re: B3422W5] #2256317
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How about only muffler cars?

Re: OK.... Back from vacation..... 11.50@ Norwalk... Rules help [Re: B3422W5] #2259617
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Damn I'm going to have to take all the boost out for the first 660ft. It's ok to run 11.50@140mph right? Lol

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Originally Posted By dizuster
Damn I'm going to have to take all the boost out for the first 660ft. It's ok to run 11.50@140mph right? Lol



Just curious on this one as I've never driven a turbo car but how much boost can a footbrake car make at the line

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Re: OK.... Back from vacation..... 11.50@ Norwalk... Rules help [Re: nss guy] #2259946
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Originally Posted By nss guy
How about only muffler cars?


I like racing my car with mufflers but the 2-step doesn't play well with mufflers. After nearly blowing one of my mufflers up I don't run them with the 2-step anymore.
But maybe with the Pro-Tree start it wont be an issue work
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Sounds like a fun deal. But you may have some problems with the "no deep stage". What if the top bulb goes out a micro second before the tree comes down. Is that a deep stage? How can you track that? What if you are not sure the top bulb did go out just before the tree flashes?

What if the guy revs and creeps through the first stage, can you make that a red light in the tower? What is wrong with deep staging? Can you enforce a "must shallow stage"? What about the guy who "almost deep stages"? That would be ok right?

I think curtesy stage is always a good idea. BUT, also include that if the first guy is pre-staged, the second guy needs to pre-stage in a reasonable amount of time. I have seen this "burn down" at a few races and it just ticks every body off but the guy doing it.

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