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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: Monte_Smith] #2217974
12/20/16 08:40 PM
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Monte Smith you are a wise man thumbs

Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: The Shadow] #2218034
12/20/16 10:29 PM
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An alternative that you guys are not thinking about, well, many of you, is that KB could have declared Chapter 7 bankruptcy, paid off all the people (banks, etc) who have first claim on the money, then told you left holding the bag, "sorry". And if you think you have first claim to the money, good luck.

The fact that they're making any noises about backorders is promising. Not that promising, but at least they're saying the right things.

Look at Keisler, they died and Silver Sport took over and seems to be making it work. It happens all the time in my world, a guy is a perfectly fine engineer but a horrible section manager. It's possible that a guy might be a tremendous engine builder but a lousy businessman. I don't know anyone, but for the sake of the sport I hope KB stays in the business.

I know I don't understand the pain of those whose life and livlihood has been dragged down below the surface. Please accept my condolences.

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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: 604Charger] #2241757
01/26/17 05:27 PM
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Tim at FHO called me today to go over my order. He is working through all the back orders trying to take care of the people who have been waiting. I know other people have been contacted and if you haven't I assume you will be soon. He also talked about what the future holds moving forward so hopefully that means a consistent source of quality blocks will become a reality. Tim indicated that more information will coming out in the coming months.


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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: 604Charger] #2241758
01/26/17 05:30 PM
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Saw the press release.. This is great news and I will be getting in my order as soon as I see how this all shakes out..


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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: Al_Alguire] #2241764
01/26/17 05:34 PM
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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: d7cook] #2241791
01/26/17 06:21 PM
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I think it's good news to see that they are going to embrace the Gen III hemi also. boogie

Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: cagebob1] #2242005
01/27/17 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted By cagebob1
I think it's good news to see that they are going to embrace the Gen III hemi also. boogie


This is a twist I did not expect, but good news.



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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: 604Charger] #2242007
01/27/17 12:16 AM
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I've been bugging Tim at FHO for awhile now about gen 3 stuff.
Maybe stage v will have a head offering soon?

Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: 604Charger] #2242019
01/27/17 12:29 AM
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I really hope that the pricing can come down which would really escalate sales, IMHO.

Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: ] #2242104
01/27/17 03:32 AM
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It will be interesting to see how it all pans out. I think it would be a great loss if Keith Black Racing Engines went out of business. It's good to see a couple of Aussie's and a Canadian bail them out


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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: 604Charger] #2242230
01/27/17 01:10 PM
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Very good news on many levels. Curious on what plans they have for the GenIII

Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: WO23Coronet] #2242240
01/27/17 01:37 PM
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Great news for sure,,, maybe when things get rolling they could offer a 4.84 BS option?? You never know.

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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: BradH] #2242256
01/27/17 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted By BradH
Originally Posted By The Shadow
Originally Posted By BradH
Originally Posted By The Shadow
Tim says he will be honoring blocks owed.
They cant be done first but will be filtered through with regular runs starting at the longest owed.
So there will still be some waiting but they will come.

What ever happened to the FIFO (First In, First Out) approach to handling product delivery? This makes it sound like the new crew can't afford to deliver the old orders until they get cash coming in from new sales. That's not a good indicator of how well financed this new venture is, IMO.

Call Ken and ask him yourself....
He didn't follow it but the new owners are supposed to?
Get your head out of your a$$
IMO it would be a tough pill to swallow filling back orders that the money got pissed away.
They are going to man up and fill them in a timely matter but you're expecting more.
All I can say is WOW some people realcrazy

1. I don't need to call; he doesn't have any of MY money.

2. Pull your own head out; my comment is based strictly that IF the new ownership can't fill the orders for those who have already paid and have been waiting before filling new orders, that's an indication that they don't have -- or aren't willing to put up -- the money to do so.

3. If new buyers are getting blocks while earlier purchasers are waiting their turn, the people who already kicked in their money have every right to be pi$$ed.

If YOU can't understand the situation as described from a simple business perspective, that's not MY problem. "Some people..." indeed. eyes



I read this situation ( as any sane person should) that the new company is going to stand behind 100% previous orders which haven't been delivered.
Assuming that money is gone, they are basically willing to eat it, to be upstanding people.
They seem to want to sprinkle in these" losing deliveries" with fresh stuff they sell and get paid for so as to be making some money while taking a bath on the others.
If they started off by losing money on every single bad deal from Ken they are making good on, they might not be around themselves.
Be happy they are doing the right thing and intend to stay viable themselves. It seems the sensible and most feasible way of making everyone happy.


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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: unknown] #2242617
01/28/17 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted By Semi-Hemi
Great news for sure,,, maybe when things get rolling they could offer a 4.84 BS option?? You never know.

they offer a 4.84" an 4.9" and 5.0" option as well, the prob. is no one other than indy currently offer a head.. I'm glad to here that the people that have been waiting for blocks might actually see them , for me I orderd waited,waited and waited some more for a block that was everything put perfect,Including having the main seal area welded on...If it wasn't for making a trip down there a couple times, I'm sure I would be in the same boat as others!!! as long as ken black is involved in any future of keith black racing, they will never see a dime of my money again!!!

Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: 604Charger] #2243089
01/28/17 10:56 PM
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I talked to Todd at Marsh Performance last week. I think this will work out well now. I trust him as much as anyone. I don't like the idea of Ken being involved either, but totally trust that Todd won't screw anyone, so neither will Ken. It doesn't sound like he will have a chance to.

Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: 604Charger] #2246234
02/03/17 12:12 AM
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Check out the block 360 view at

http://iconfigurators.com/keith-black/


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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: 604Charger] #2247420
02/04/17 10:27 PM
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Just saw this on the "General" site. Listed as Hemi, but it's a wedge motor.

http://iconfigurators.com/keith-black/


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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: 604Charger] #2247422
02/04/17 10:28 PM
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Damn, beat out again!


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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: 604Charger] #2247455
02/04/17 11:29 PM
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Yes we know it is a wedge. That art work was just some conception ideas being kicked around by the graphic artist. Thank you all for pointing it out. Computer Graphics guys and gals are not engine builders......Now why won't these pushrods clear and why are my hemi pistons so dang flat!

Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: sasquatch] #2247535
02/05/17 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted By sasquatch
Computer Graphics guys and gals are not engine builders......Now why won't these pushrods clear and why are my hemi pistons so dang flat!


That's easy. Just have the computer guys use their eraser and fix it. whistling


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