Re: Super Stock Springs
[Re: Monte_Smith]
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Funny how the "knowleable" ones bash something then the others jump on the bandwagon. Super Stock Springs are great for 80-90% of the "lowly" brackets racers on this forum, pay $250 for them, put them on, go racing, no brainier. The other 10% who run in the 7-8s spend the mega bucks, have someone tune it for you then have at it. Yea, you need $1000 shocks, four link and a 25.5 cent to run in high 10s-11s and 12s
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Re: Super Stock Springs
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Is there a thread here on how fast members have gone on leaf springs? If not, to the lead spring users, how fast have you gone on leaf springs? A guy named Roger Laudy Who was one of the Top dogs in KOS, back in the 95, was one of the First, he was actually the second to break into the 8,s using SS leaf springs. There were Lots of other heavy Hitters that were out there that hadn't achieved that yet. They were using 4 links and Ladders as well. But it was the lowly leaf spring that Beat All but one into the 8,s. At the time he was running 8.56 at 160 mph There were Lots of Naysayers telling him Then, it couldn't be done, getting into the 8,s with leaf springs. Not only did he Do it, He was one of the Firsts to do it. Later the KOS guys were breaking into the 7,s crazy. Laudys car is still in the same configuration last I heard.
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Re: Super Stock Springs
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Funny how the "knowleable" ones bash something then the others jump on the bandwagon. Super Stock Springs are great for 80-90% of the "lowly" brackets racers on this forum, pay $250 for them, put them on, go racing, no brainier. The other 10% who run in the 7-8s spend the mega bucks, have someone tune it for you then have at it. Yea, you need $1000 shocks, four link and a 25.5 cent to run in high 10s-11s and 12s There have been a lot of threads lately about Purple shaft, iron heads, SS springs, etc. being "junk". As I pointed out in the mushroom thread, most of us don't have John Force-sized budgets. For me it's just a hobby and I want to get the most bang for my buck, even if that means I can't run 8's with license plates
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Re: Super Stock Springs
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Funny how the "knowleable" ones bash something then the others jump on the bandwagon. Super Stock Springs are great for 80-90% of the "lowly" brackets racers on this forum, pay $250 for them, put them on, go racing, no brainier. The other 10% who run in the 7-8s spend the mega bucks, have someone tune it for you then have at it. Yea, you need $1000 shocks, four link and a 25.5 cent to run in high 10s-11s and 12s There have been a lot of threads lately about Purple shaft, iron heads, SS springs, etc. being "junk". As I pointed out in the mushroom thread, most of us don't have John Force-sized budgets. For me it's just a hobby and I want to get the most bang for my buck, even if that means I can't run 8's with license plates Looking down your nose at others because they aren't as fast as you or use older technology in their builds is par for the course on Moparts. A few here think highly of themselves for running down the Mopar brand as well. It leaves a bad taste in lots of mouths...
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Re: Super Stock Springs
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If one grew up in those times they would understand why that stuff worked. Thank-You... Above and beyond the pompous pontification of brand x...
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Re: Super Stock Springs
[Re: Monte_Smith]
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01/16/17 05:32 PM
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Some of you need to get off your high and mighty soap boxes, like you are taking up for the "little" guys and others are looking down on them..........because you are full of it.
I am not sure that more than a couple people even got the POINT of the post and the rest just went into "oh my god, got to defend mode" not even knowing what it is they are even defending against. I tried to explain the point several times and most can't see the forest for the trees. NEVER, not ONE time, did I say SS springs were a bad thing, nor a bad option. I DID say they were not magic and you could accomplish the same thing yourself with some work. Some are so damn sensitive that they want to bend everything around you say, as you are Hating on Mopar, which again isn't true The problem is, it ain't a do it yourself world. Most people want to log in, search the web, order the stuff and have it brown trucked to their door so they can bolt it on. While I encourage as many as possible to do it yourself, most guys are not capable of doing it themselves. There is also the herd mentality. That is, there is only one way to do it, and if you don't do it that way, it ain't done right. You are trying to be educational. Some of us can't be educated. No offense to those of us who are uneducatable. Myself included.
Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: Super Stock Springs
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01/16/17 10:18 PM
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The problem is, it ain't a do it yourself world. Most people want to log in, search the web, order the stuff and have it brown trucked to their door so they can bolt it on.
While I encourage as many as possible to do it yourself, most guys are not capable of doing it themselves.
There is also the herd mentality. That is, there is only one way to do it, and if you don't do it that way, it ain't done right.
You are trying to be educational. Some of us can't be educated. No offense to those of us who are uneducatable. Myself included. [/quote]
And that's what the whole topic is about. IF your buying and spending 300 for SS springs then go with something better. Set of mono's maybe? If your rebuilding an engine and going through the hassle of Mag, shot peen and resizing with new bolts then order a better set.= Cheaper If your a machinist and can do this with no money then go ahead and use what you got. The whole debate was WHY was SS springs so great! There is nothing great about them other than you can order a set and use them. Knowing what I know now I would of Made mine. But having the convenience of the Big brown truck can help people out. There is always going to be a better way of doing things with less.
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Re: Super Stock Springs
[Re: Monte_Smith]
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I don't think anyone is looking down anyone's nose. There are different strokes for different folks and poor people have poor ways. There are bracket racers, heads up guys, NSS racers and street race time trial guys on here. Lots of different tastes and machines. I personally love a sleeper and steel wheels and leaf springs are part of the allusion.
Getting old just means you were smarter than some and luckier than others.
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Re: Super Stock Springs
[Re: Monte_Smith]
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01/16/17 11:17 PM
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Whew! what a ride this post has been --we are all combat buddies now geeez! Herb McCandless was right up the street from us coming up--we could drop in--ask--get the right part that moment and go faster--the in stock selection was the best in the world and the advice was free--we started out with such thin budgets that we traded engine, head, suregrip, 11 in rear brake, and all type of Cores in to Herb to help pay for what we wanted The Coolest thing was we got a story with every purchase--sometimes a lecture--sometimes our ass chewed but we always went faster and always learned something Thing is I remember Herb talking about SS springs as he sold us a pair or 6 --he almost could not believe how much effort Mopar put into developing them--testing was intense and they were tested by the Cream of the Crop of Mopar factory racers before ever being sold-- SO..to think that you can stack a few junkyard leafs to "look" like SS springs seems like the answer is WHY?? we used them because they were CHEAP and worked --I was poor but not so poor I had to roll my on--and..when I thought I was that smart I tried--Guess what? tossed them after a while got some real ones and never looked back That's it , that is all I was saying Let's get back to sharing what we have learned and helping one another and come out of this on a positive note What do ya say ya in or ya out?
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Re: Super Stock Springs
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01/16/17 11:19 PM
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No one is looking down their nose at anyone.. and no one degraded any one for using them.. so if they work for you fine.. if they didnt then you need something different.. pretty simple and yes some of us did make our own junk to make things work.. everything doesnt have to come off the brown truck
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Re: Super Stock Springs
[Re: Monte_Smith]
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01/17/17 12:27 AM
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Well.....Monty certainly knows how to give a thread bump that's for sure.
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Re: Super Stock Springs
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01/17/17 12:34 AM
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It is how they look launching not how they look in the pits
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Re: Super Stock Springs
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It is how they look launching not how they look in the pits So you think they launch better than Cal-Tracs?
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Re: Super Stock Springs
[Re: cudaman1969]
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Some can step on another's toes and too oblivious to know they have. Why even bring it up unless to start an argument. It's great to want to help our fellow racers, but how about wording it better next time. Go back and read what you wrote a few times, then tell me that's not arrogance, like we're too stupid to understand what you " meant", another put down. Precisely. But hey, we're told that it is not like that so we should ignore the facts (there's that pesky word again!)and be content.
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