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Super Stock Springs #2230522
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I want someone to "splain" to me the supposed magic of these springs........LOL!!! What do they do that other springs don't? Are they made of "magic" spring steel and others are just regular spring steel? Because when anybody asks about rear springs........that's all we hear is he needs Super Stock springs. I just want to know why. And because they worked for so and so is not an answer.

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Re: Super Stock Springs [Re: Monte_Smith] #2230534
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Re: Super Stock Springs [Re: slantzilla] #2230546
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Originally Posted By slantzilla
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Monte has joined the "Winter Discussions" on Moparts!!!!

Or he has taken up drinking for amusement drinking

Re: Super Stock Springs [Re: Monte_Smith] #2230551
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The only difference I've ever seen between OEM and Superstock springs is that there are usually more leafs, which I'm guessing relates to less axle wrap up.


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Re: Super Stock Springs [Re: sgcuda] #2230555
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More leaves, shorter front segment and don't have 40 years of wear and tear on them! LOL!

Still junky "Hencho in Mexico" quality that doesn't last...


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Re: Super Stock Springs [Re: Monte_Smith] #2230562
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Originally Posted By Monte_Smith
I want someone to "splain" to me the supposed magic of these springs........LOL!!! What do they do that other springs don't? Are they made of "magic" spring steel and others are just regular spring steel? Because when anybody asks about rear springs........that's all we hear is he needs Super Stock springs. I just want to know why. And because they worked for so and so is not an answer.



The Magic, They are Biased Stiffer on the Passenger side to help the tires keep planted. And they do help. Basic knowledge to me anyways is that the axel will try to rotate Up on the passenger side. Not hard to figure out what that will do for traction.

The Fix, a Stiffer bias of spring strength, or in the case of the SS springs, just a Extra spring, on the passenger side is what they did.


So the Simple Magic, Passenger side More Stiffer. Got To keep that axel planted on the Passenger side., That's trying to Lift Up. up

Re: Super Stock Springs [Re: Monte_Smith] #2230576
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I see a winter time pinion angle discussion brewing too lol.

Re: Super Stock Springs [Re: Monte_Smith] #2230578
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I can remember in the eraly 1960s other brand cars with leaf springs at the drags experiencing severe wheel hop with the stock leaf springs, not so much with the stock OEM Mopar brand leaf springs shruggy Once the drag racing engineers at Chryslers drag racing program started improving the spring designs and material thicknesses used on Mopar production brand cars, they started winning at the strips with production cars shruggy


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Re: Super Stock Springs [Re: Monte_Smith] #2230591
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Re: Super Stock Springs [Re: Monte_Smith] #2230595
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If I remember right, the SS springs had leafs that were .050 thicker that stock as well.


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Re: Super Stock Springs [Re: dthemi] #2230596
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Originally Posted By dthemi
I see a winter time pinion angle discussion brewing too lol.


It was your idea so you have to start the thread. haha


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Re: Super Stock Springs [Re: dthemi] #2230597
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Originally Posted By dthemi
I see a winter time pinion angle discussion brewing too lol.


Are you saying, We don't have that Figured out Yet. Thought We did. up laugh2 beer

Re: Super Stock Springs [Re: Monte_Smith] #2230617
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I just wanted to see if anybody knew.............or it was just one of those "that's what you are supposed to use" situations.........LOL!!!

All I know, is that with all the recommendations on here, I wish I had a couple truck loads of the damn things........LOL!!!

Oh yeah, we just always went to the junk yard, bought extra spring packs and built our own

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Re: Super Stock Springs [Re: Sport440] #2230627
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Originally Posted By Sport440
Originally Posted By Monte_Smith
I want someone to "splain" to me the supposed magic of these springs........LOL!!! What do they do that other springs don't? Are they made of "magic" spring steel and others are just regular spring steel? Because when anybody asks about rear springs........that's all we hear is he needs Super Stock springs. I just want to know why. And because they worked for so and so is not an answer.



The Magic, They are Biased Stiffer on the Passenger side to help the tires keep planted. And they do help. Basic knowledge to me anyways is that the axel will try to rotate Up on the passenger side. Not hard to figure out what that will do for traction.

The Fix, a Stiffer bias of spring strength, or in the case of the SS springs, just a Extra spring, on the passenger side is what they did.


So the Simple Magic, Passenger side More Stiffer. Got To keep that axel planted on the Passenger side., That's trying to Lift Up. up


That iagree plus, the shorter front segment gives the axle housing a better mechanical advantage to lift the body harder and plant the tires harder. And the stiff front segment gives it the strength to do so without losing motion to flex.

Re: Super Stock Springs [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2230629
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I had to make my version of stiff springs that
would launch.. I clamped a piece to 3/8" thick
steel from on the fronts on my springs on my
62 Dart... work very well.. later I changed it
to spring steel and all I had back then was truck
shocks... might have been the first slapper bars
but these were solid
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Re: Super Stock Springs [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2230715
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back in the day, no one around here had the money for ss springs, so we hit the bone yards and got truck, station wagon springs, or extra main leaves and used a torch to cut to the length desired. we then shaped the cut ends with a grinder, added paint, then assembled the leaves we thought necessary to stiffen the front segment as was needed. no clamps on the rear segments, and however many as required on the front. i owned a yard from '73-84, so lots of springs were given away to friends for the purpose. it was up to them to remove what they wanted. may have been one of the original "pick your part" yards, but we didn't charge $2 to get in.
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Re: Super Stock Springs [Re: Monte_Smith] #2230764
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Originally Posted By Monte_Smith
I just wanted to see if anybody knew.............or it was just one of those "that's what you are supposed to use" situations.........LOL!!!

All I know, is that with all the recommendations on here, I wish I had a couple truck loads of the damn things........LOL!!!

Oh yeah, we just always went to the junk yard, bought extra spring packs and built our own


Monte this site is progressive compared to some other Mopar sites biggrin. Superstock springs, purple shaft cams, iron heads and dual plane intakes are all one needs. And the thing is it's all you need no matter how fast you want to go LOL. Want a 600hp 318? just get a purple shaft cam (hydraulic most of the time), a 340 intake, X heads and some cheap 1 5/8 headers and there you have it. Just add SS springs and you'll be in the 9s.

Sarcasm intended.

Re: Super Stock Springs [Re: Monte_Smith] #2230767
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I put my 454/455 springs on as a 12.0 car but what has been needed along with it has been shocks[DA] would have gave me more control.


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Re: Super Stock Springs [Re: Monte_Smith] #2230800
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I put them on my belvedere because I was too cheap to buy mono leafs and cal-tracs... which I probably will do in a few years.


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Re: Super Stock Springs [Re: Monte_Smith] #2230813
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axle center pin is about one inch forward from stock, shorting front segment making it stiffer, normally you would buy new front spring hangers that have front mounting hole back one inch to center axle in wheel well, this also pushes rear hangers back one inch to increase spring wind-up and reduce spring binding. works better than stock set-up

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