340 Crank.
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In mid 72 the 340 got a cast crank, correct? What about 4-spd cars? Did they get a cast or forged crank? Late 72-73.
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Re: 340 Crank.
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Only 73's had cast cranks. All 72's should have been forged.
Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: 340 Crank.
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They went to the cast crank in Apr of '72... Only way to know for certain is to look at the damper on the engine...Cast crank has a different damper. http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/TSBs/1972/09-07-72C%20page1.jpg
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Re: 340 Crank.
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My 73 Challenger is a 4 speed, cast crank. Doug
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Re: 340 Crank.
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This pic was floating around a while back... It shows the difference... ![up up](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/thumbs_up.gif) I Think it says "for use with 340 cast crank only" stamped on the front...
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Re: 340 Crank.
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Ok thanks. Have a friends 70 Cuda with a 340 that he took out of a 68 Barracuda but is a 71 casting and a 72 vin. It has a steel crank damper. Don't really know much about the motor but it has a really bad vibration. Seems to be RPM related. Have not pulled the pan but the crank is drilled for a pilot bushing.
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Re: 340 Crank.
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Ok thanks. Don't really know much about the motor but it has a really bad vibration. Seems to be RPM related. Before you go chasing problems, I purchased a vehicle from an owner who had an ASE shop/mechanic(s) tell him the engine that was swapped into his vehicle had damper/and or converter balance problems because the components had been combined between 2 motors by another shop,...I spent all of 5 minutes to discover that the plug wires on 2 cylinders were crossed over, sure felt like a vibration/RPM problem at the time, so eliminate the obvious before tearing into the motor Mike
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Re: 340 Crank.
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Ok thanks. Don't really know much about the motor but it has a really bad vibration. Seems to be RPM related. Before you go chasing problems, I purchased a vehicle from an owner who had an ASE shop/mechanic(s) tell him the engine that was swapped into his vehicle had damper/and or converter balance problems because the components had been combined between 2 motors by another shop,...I spent all of 5 minutes to discover that the plug wires on 2 cylinders were crossed over, sure felt like a vibration/RPM problem at the time, so eliminate the obvious before tearing into the motor Mike He has had this 340 in the car for a few years now and we have eliminated most everything else including the tranny.
72 Satellite Sebring Plus 440, 72 Dart 5.9 4-spd, 68 Valiant, 73 W200, 78 D100 sb, 78 D200, 98 DAKOTA, . Moparmarks Parts & Restorations Desert Mopar Metal Grand Jct. CO 970-261-7039 http://moparmark.com/motormangj@gmail.com
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Re: 340 Crank.
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I have a '72 model year 340 with a 9/30/71 casting date with a cast crank. Ok that helps. Thanks. He might have a cast crank with a forged balancer. As stated before 340 4-spd could have a cast crank. Looks like we need to pull the pan to be sure.
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Re: 340 Crank.
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You may be able to use an inspection camera up through the oil drain plug. The cast crank looks fairly different. I think the only challenge might be keeping the camera lens clean for long enough to get a good look.
Correction: windage tray may block the view.
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Re: 340 Crank.
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Keep in mind that the 340 had the smallest external weight of any Mopar. If both the balancer and converter/flywheel are correct, replacing the balancer by itself might not make a noticeable difference.
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Re: 340 Crank.
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He might have a cast crank with a forged balancer.
Or the other way around, ive a cheater motor I used a steel crank on and had it balanced with a cast balancer mentioned above that the cast 340s use so by looks it was a low performance 73 340 but it wasnt.
The 340 cast unit with its odd shape is semi hard to find I think.
Mine looked stock with a little bit of weight removed...
PM me if someone wants this crank and balancer, its got a bit more stroke the oem too.
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Re: 340 Crank.
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The motor has a forged crank balancer but don't know which crank it has. He is gone working for about a month so we'll see what he wants to do when he gets back. May need that cast balancer. Thanks
72 Satellite Sebring Plus 440, 72 Dart 5.9 4-spd, 68 Valiant, 73 W200, 78 D100 sb, 78 D200, 98 DAKOTA, . Moparmarks Parts & Restorations Desert Mopar Metal Grand Jct. CO 970-261-7039 http://moparmark.com/motormangj@gmail.com
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