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Re: Street Outlaws. Now I've seen it ALL (Reaper)
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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Makes ZERO difference on an EFI car. We don't run one anymore either. The throttle bodies are huge. Our motor gets all the air it needs at 30% throttle opening and you don't rely on air flow to deliver fuel so the scoop does nothing but get in the way
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Re: Street Outlaws. Now I've seen it ALL (Reaper)
[Re: Monte_Smith]
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12/20/16 06:13 PM
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Mike(new guy) left the warm up plugs in the throttle bodies when he put new plugs in. Just like carb guys hang them in the boosters, we generally lay them in the bodies. He just forgot about them and since you don't have to crack the throttle on an EFI car, it didn't show until he decked it in the burnout Why would you do this? I've been an auto mechanic for 42 years and I wouldn't even think of setting anything in a carb or throttle body that could even remotely end up in the intake. It's just tempting fate. Everyone makes mistakes, why would you want to increase your odds of catastrophic failure? You look at the plugs every pass on a nitrous car. We and most others have always just stuck the plugs in the carb boosters. It keeps them in order and where they can be seen. You look at the plugs with your light or scope and then put them back in the motor. Just the way most choose to do it. So when we switched to EFI our process didn't change. On our throttle bodies, they are shorter and the threads of the plugs stick out the top and are easily seen. Guess James' throttle bodies are deeper and they were overlooked. Because YOU wouldn't do it doesn't matter. You likely do things I would never do, so none of that matters. A mistake was made, it cost him and is likely a mistake he will never make again The day I met Monte, I stood back and watched this whole process of him sticking the plugs in the carb boosters and then check each one as if he had done this 1000 times. I would never do it but think of his routine every time I pull plugs which isn't but every couple years 
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Re: Street Outlaws. Now I've seen it ALL (Reaper)
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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12/20/16 06:31 PM
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Always appreciate the insight Monte! Doc and Monza are my favorite characters/cars, should have made it out to Sac or Redding when they were here earlier this year but was too busy with my other hobby at the time! I know some of my racer friends enjoyed chatting with them.
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Re: Street Outlaws. Now I've seen it ALL (Reaper)
[Re: Keith Richards]
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12/20/16 11:22 PM
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Any word on how Chucks car is progressing?  Tim
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Re: Street Outlaws. Now I've seen it ALL (Reaper)
[Re: Monte_Smith]
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12/20/16 11:56 PM
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I will admit that at times James is his own worst enemy, but he also just has some crap luck. His car is as fast as ANY when it makes a clean pass, but he just can't get any decent help, plus silly mistakes and bad luck are killing him.
He was here a couple weeks ago and I drove the car. One pass it went dead rich, like it did on the show a couple times. Bad water temp sensor with intermittent problem, that was throwing the fuel table off, because it thought the motor was 30*. He had been fighting that issue but did not have enough experience to spot it in the data. I found that, but it took a while and then we shook it so hard later it shattered a rear wheel bearing and our day was done. Monte, I have no dog in this fight obviously as I'm not the guy footing the bill for any of those cars (barely doing things to my own at times). I do however have a quote that you should paste to James dash.... A negative mind will never give you a positive life. That may or may not ring a bell with him but it may help if he pauses long enough to think it over.
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Re: Street Outlaws. Now I've seen it ALL (Reaper)
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12/20/16 11:56 PM
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I felt physically sick to my stomach when they said what happened! ...and it's not even my car.
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Re: Street Outlaws. Now I've seen it ALL (Reaper)
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12/20/16 11:58 PM
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If it bites me I'll rebuild it. I have had it sideways in the lights. It's a possibility every time I launch it. You laughing at a racer for hurting his junk is why I called you out. It's indy heads with a turbo. Fast as hell for a bracket motor. It's my combo, I didn't copy anyone. Look through my pics on photo bucket, you will see nobody but me built it. What I started with  Put up the Photobucket link I'd like to see the pics. Checked it out, kool build 
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Re: Street Outlaws. Now I've seen it ALL (Reaper)
[Re: I_bleed_MOPAR]
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12/21/16 12:04 AM
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Any word on how Chucks car is progressing? Tim He was at KID and won the big tire grudge race the end of this season. Car looked pretty awesome!
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Re: Street Outlaws. Now I've seen it ALL (Reaper)
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Looking at the video from PRI with Ellington talking about the Murder Nova , the only thing that visually looks stock on the front frame is the A arms and they are tubular. The rest is all chrome moly tube chassis.
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Re: Street Outlaws. Now I've seen it ALL (Reaper)
[Re: Monte_Smith]
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12/21/16 05:49 AM
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Mike(new guy) left the warm up plugs in the throttle bodies when he put new plugs in. Just like carb guys hang them in the boosters, we generally lay them in the bodies. He just forgot about them and since you don't have to crack the throttle on an EFI car, it didn't show until he decked it in the burnout Why would you do this? I've been an auto mechanic for 42 years and I wouldn't even think of setting anything in a carb or throttle body that could even remotely end up in the intake. It's just tempting fate. Everyone makes mistakes, why would you want to increase your odds of catastrophic failure? You look at the plugs every pass on a nitrous car. We and most others have always just stuck the plugs in the carb boosters. It keeps them in order and where they can be seen. You look at the plugs with your light or scope and then put them back in the motor. Just the way most choose to do it. So when we switched to EFI our process didn't change. On our throttle bodies, they are shorter and the threads of the plugs stick out the top and are easily seen. Guess James' throttle bodies are deeper and they were overlooked. Because YOU wouldn't do it doesn't matter. You likely do things I would never do, so none of that matters. A mistake was made, it cost him and is likely a mistake he will never make again Yep, doesn't matter that I will never make THAT stupid mistake. Mistake WAS made and WILL be made again by someone. It's a 100% preventable $50,000 mistake. Do what ever you want, just don't be surprised that someone might laugh at that stupidity.  
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Re: Street Outlaws. Now I've seen it ALL (Reaper)
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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12/21/16 11:44 AM
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I quit watching the show but I follow a few of the guys on facebook.
Daddy Dave taking a shot here lol
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Re: Street Outlaws. Now I've seen it ALL (Reaper)
[Re: Bad340fish]
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12/21/16 12:16 PM
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I quit watching the show but I follow a few of the guys on facebook.
Daddy Dave taking a shot here lol
LOL. That's GREAT.
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Re: Street Outlaws. Now I've seen it ALL (Reaper)
[Re: Monte_Smith]
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12/21/16 02:42 PM
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Guess I forgot everyone here is perfect, never done anything wrong, nor made a mistake......my bad!!!
Take a chill pill Monte. You are so hung up on these guys they can do no wrong. I hate to see anyone hurt their stuff but you got to admit that was one that should not happen. If the plugs set that low in the throttle bodies that they didn't jump out at you when you put the front end on don't do it. Did they see you doing this and start doing it too. No wonder you lose customers
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Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
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