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Oil pan capacity? #2213850
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Does anyone know what the 440source hemi oil pan actually holds in the pan? The product description says it is a 6-quart pan, but is that 5 in the pan and 1 in the filter or 6 in the pan and 1 in the filter?

I know someone on here has one and can tell me which it is.

440source customer service didn't know for sure.

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Agreed I'm sure someone on here has one otherwise I would call 'source back & ask him to give you the dimentions of the "sump" part of the pan & do L x W x H & see what you get for volume in quarts. when you weld in a perimeter slosh baffle around the rim of the sump I'm thinking that is going to be to top of where the fluid should be, otherwise this is a BTT for ya


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Re: Oil pan capacity? [Re: randavis] #2213906
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Which year is their pan for, 1966 to 1969 street hemi deep sump with the idler arm side hump in it or the later 1970/71 long sump shallower pan?
Is the pan on the motor or on the bench? If not on the motor try filling one quart at a time with some liquid and see where 5 and 6 quarts put the liquid level at scope
The early street hemi pans where spec. at 5 quarts but many stock class NHRA racers ran six quarts in the pan after measuring the levels in them work keep in mind when the motor is running and circulating the oil 2 to 3 quarts are being circulated in the motor shruggy


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It is the 70 - 71 pan. I haven't bought it yet. I have a high volume oil pump on the engine and it will pump a standard 4 qt. pan dry, at least enough to suck air, by 4500 rpm. I have a -4 an line to a mechanical gauge so it is very responsive.

Thirty eight years ago when I put the 440 into my '74 Challenger, I modified the pan by putting two inch extensions on the sides of the sump. I could run 6 + 1 in that. It was gas welded with an oxy-acetelyne torch, which has developed some pinholes over time and has some warpage. The car sat on jack stands in my garage for 26 years. You know, that child rearing thing. I retired and started a restoration on the car. It is about 80% complete now.

I am looking at the hemi pan to address the leakage. I would like to have a 6 + 1 system.


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New engine! 511" RB, Edelbrock Performer RPM heads, Eagle rotating assy, Comp hyd roller cam, Doug's 2" headers.
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I started using that 1970/71 6 quart oil pan from Mopar years ago on the motors that will go into cars that pan will fit thumbs
My old pump gas Duster ran low tens to high nines with that oil pan on it and I never had a oiling problem with it as long as I kept the oil level above the add mark on the dipstick thumbs
I did have to calibrate the new Mopar brand chrome oil dipstick and tube to insure the markings on the dipstick where correct by shortening the dip stick tube a little at a time by cutting it off with a small tubing cutter until it read full with six quarts in the oil pan scope
I shifted that motor at or above 7000 RPM at the track and it would run between 6500 and 7000 RPM at the finish line in the 1/4 mile, depending on which rear tires where on the car and the weather conditions at the track shruggy
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I have the Milodon street HEMI pan that looks like that pan and 6 1/2 quarts puts it right on the full mark hot with a factory RB dipstick.

Looks like this pan

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Thanks guys. I'll probably get that pan and go for it.


74 Challenger, bought it new. In 1978 I replaced the original 318 with a 446 and 727. Mild cam, Jardine headers, and Holley Sniper EFI.
New engine! 511" RB, Edelbrock Performer RPM heads, Eagle rotating assy, Comp hyd roller cam, Doug's 2" headers.
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Windage tray is a game-changer...

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I used the 440 Source stroker windage tray and a MP straight type oil pickup from Mancini for the 70-71 pan. D0 NOT use the 440 Source pick-up with this pan and tray as it will not fit.
My Eagle crank would not clear the Source pick-up and and I would have had to cut the crap out of it to fit the tray.
The straight "factory style" pickup worked perfect.
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