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Re: Is Street Outlaws getting boring? [Re: PorkyPig] #2205033
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don't like it fine........why even open these threads?

Re: Is Street Outlaws getting boring? [Re: n20mstr] #2205044
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Originally Posted By n20mstr
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I'm sorry, the "safe factor" of no police and legally blocked streets......makes me just think "posers" you can tell some of these guys are doing it because there is no risk of getting busted, then there are the die hards that yea they don't care lol they will race any where. Doing this on a purpose built road, that's track racing, sorry
The roads they race on now are "purpose built"......for driving. You build one just like it except thicker so it doesn't get torn up. The same way the cities come in and dig up roads that big trucks wreck and put down a foot of concrete road.

Most all of these "posers" were doing actual street racing way before this show came along. The "list" is a real thing in OKC and has been around for 20 years.

Like most, I did my share of real street racing. Running from the law, posting sentry's to watch for the law and finding roads to get in and out quick, or had places to hide. We used to find places on the interstate that had exits one mile apart with a center barrier. Roll down with a couple blocker cars, stop the traffic, make a hit and haul it to next exit. Back then

you likely got a reckless driving ticket, a spectating ticket and MAYBE a night in jail. Now they impound your rig, you don't get it back and you are lucky to ever get your license back or ever get insurance. No thanks. Guys that say they don't care, or thats the risk you take are lying or have nothing to lose. I have plenty to lose and so does any upstanding citizen. Even money won't get you out that jenga these days with a DA that wants to make an example and there are plenty

Some think it's track racing and MANY show up with fast track cars and get their asses cracked. A fast track car is easy. Getting it down a concrete or asphalt road, controlled environment or not is HARD. Want to try your luck? go to a no prep and I mean a REAL no prep where they come in and scrape the track. Then tell us all how easy it is


I did it back in the 80's and early 90's. I won a ton of races , and yea I got down regular highways. You know there are guys on the show that would not risk it. 90% of them are what I would call real street racers, and I know they have been doing it for years now, I watched the 1320/big rob vids before the show ever was a thought, but there are some that are not, lol
What's funny is Cecil,county has a "list race" once a month, we go totes because it's 15.00 to test and they prep it like its a radial,tire race LOL. So much for no prep.



I used to do the street racing thing back in the 70's, got down the streets with no problem, only had maybe 400 hp . But that was big back then in my area. LOL


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Re: Is Street Outlaws getting boring? [Re: PorkyPig] #2205046
11/30/16 03:55 AM
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Couple years ago towing my Dakota home from the track I was hit by one, my wife was hurt, my Ram wiped out and people wonder why I have a attitude about street racing?
A 10 year old girl was killed by one a couple weeks ago... Albuquerque, nm needs to start taking cars.


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Re: Is Street Outlaws getting boring? [Re: PorkyPig] #2205067
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People have always street raced and probably always will. Has SO maybe contributed to more people going out in the middle of nowhere and having a drag race? I doubt it, maybe, who knows....... Has it contributed to more idiots racing through traffic on busy streets? highly doubt that because nothing of that sort is ever shown on the show, plus it's not what they do. Stupid people do stupid things and no TV show factors into that

Re: Is Street Outlaws getting boring? [Re: PorkyPig] #2205072
11/30/16 07:11 AM
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all i know i seen murder novas car and chief in person and to get those things down a street that aint no track is a job and if anyone here is willing to try it go right ahead. thats not a easy task not only that when something goes wrong it gets ugly so got to give those guys lots of credit

Re: Is Street Outlaws getting boring? [Re: PorkyPig] #2205085
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I watch the show and enjoy it for the most part. I think that a little less BS wouldn't hurt it any. Pinks all out was great! We went to St.Louis and I have never seen a crowd that big. Also was chosen for Armdrop Live at our local track there has never been an event since that has filled the stands with spectators there. The demise of Armdrop live and Pinks all out was Rich Christiansens greed. So enjoy the show while it lasts.


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Re: Is Street Outlaws getting boring? [Re: PorkyPig] #2205095
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Pinks all out was great!

This is simply blurred entertainment of some sort with cars mixed in.



Re: Is Street Outlaws getting boring? [Re: PorkyPig] #2205109
11/30/16 10:34 AM
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I think it lost a lot after switching to pro mods, viewers can't relate as well to thier rides. Still the best show on TV and the only one I try to watch

Re: Is Street Outlaws getting boring? [Re: 590 Challenger] #2205129
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The original Pinks in my eyes was terrible. It was like a bunch of grungy racers talking about how bad azz their car was, then turning around and begging for the leave or car-lengths. And the LOVE for Pinks All Out simply amazes me because you guys rag on the (8.90, 9.90, and 10.90) classes but this show promoted it, and you guys love it. lol. I guess it has to do with getting your 5 minutes of fame on TV. It got to a point of most everyone setting their car up to run 10.00 to get in the BIGGEST pool of cars.


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Re: Is Street Outlaws getting boring? [Re: SpareParts] #2205150
11/30/16 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted By SpareParts
Want excitement? Dude is either nuts or the BADDEST man on any street... love the open face helmet

https://youtu.be/UB8_RsBVI-s


what was great about that? The beat up ex-pro stock car was either broken or sleeping. Not much of a race.

Re: Is Street Outlaws getting boring? [Re: Adobedude] #2205211
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Originally Posted By Adobedude
Couple years ago towing my Dakota home from the track I was hit by one, my wife was hurt, my Ram wiped out and people wonder why I have a attitude about street racing?
A 10 year old girl was killed by one a couple weeks ago... Albuquerque, nm needs to start taking cars.
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All of this is a sad deal, but stuff happens. People die in cars every day. Should we outlaw them?

People get killed cleaning loaded weapons....yup ban them all.

People get killed every single day, one fork at a time. Ban fast food, sugar, salt, GMO's...ban it all.


Life is too short to live in fear of everything.



BTW, did you actually run up on an illegal drag race, or just two ricers not paying attention?


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Re: Is Street Outlaws getting boring? [Re: PorkyPig] #2205214
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I've watched it a few times, doesn't do much for me, 95% drama 5% racing that takes 3-4 second cars at least a minute to show on camera, AFTER the commercial. The show with what 50 cars and the winner getting 50 grand, I liked that. After how many years has it been on, I wonder how much faster each car is from the first show? I see more Stinky Pinky type cars in the future (the one show I did happen to watch). A track car against the street savy Cro-Mod car and only got him by the paint on the bumper, look out.

Re: Is Street Outlaws getting boring? [Re: madscientist] #2205220
11/30/16 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted By madscientist
Originally Posted By Adobedude
Couple years ago towing my Dakota home from the track I was hit by one, my wife was hurt, my Ram wiped out and people wonder why I have a attitude about street racing?
A 10 year old girl was killed by one a couple weeks ago... Albuquerque, nm needs to start taking cars.
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All of this is a sad deal, but stuff happens. People die in cars every day. Should we outlaw them?

People get killed cleaning loaded weapons....yup ban them all.

People get killed every single day, one fork at a time. Ban fast food, sugar, salt, GMO's...ban it all.

Life is too short to live in fear of everything.

BTW, did you actually run up on an illegal drag race, or just two ricers not paying attention?


No difference. There are plenty of DAs that race on the street. They block traffic, run red lights and not just in rural areas. I see dumb stuff on FB and Youtube all the time. We had a bunch of people run down by 2 street racers a few years ago, the people were in the middle of the street watching 2 other street racers run down the highway.

Re: Is Street Outlaws getting boring? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #2205286
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Originally Posted By Mr.Yuck
Originally Posted By madscientist
Originally Posted By Adobedude
Couple years ago towing my Dakota home from the track I was hit by one, my wife was hurt, my Ram wiped out and people wonder why I have a attitude about street racing?
A 10 year old girl was killed by one a couple weeks ago... Albuquerque, nm needs to start taking cars.
d

All of this is a sad deal, but stuff happens. People die in cars every day. Should we outlaw them?

People get killed cleaning loaded weapons....yup ban them all.

People get killed every single day, one fork at a time. Ban fast food, sugar, salt, GMO's...ban it all.

Life is too short to live in fear of everything.

BTW, did you actually run up on an illegal drag race, or just two ricers not paying attention?


No difference. There are plenty of DAs that race on the street. They block traffic, run red lights and not just in rural areas. I see dumb stuff on FB and Youtube all the time. We had a bunch of people run down by 2 street racers a few years ago, the people were in the middle of the street watching 2 other street racers run down the highway.

Stupid people make stupid kids, gene pool is way down and nature has its ways of removing them IF sociaty doesn't intercede.

Re: Is Street Outlaws getting boring? [Re: PorkyPig] #2205290
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I like the show, entertaining. Just waiting for them to start running Top fuel on the street wink

Re: Is Street Outlaws getting boring? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #2205321
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Originally Posted By Mr.Yuck
Originally Posted By SpareParts
Want excitement? Dude is either nuts or the BADDEST man on any street... love the open face helmet

https://youtu.be/UB8_RsBVI-s


what was great about that? The beat up ex-pro stock car was either broken or sleeping. Not much of a race.


Birdman (car is beat up from a recent tow rig crash) was not broken or even sleeping honestly, JJ just left that damn good! .033 is good on a pro tree, really good on instant green, but phenomenal off a flashlight!!
Then put a car like that down a bare virgin road... wow. My car is not as fast as that and it's not easy to get down a street clean.

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What is/was best?
Pinks
Pinks All Out
Street Outlaws

I don't know the answer but the 405 has been on all 3 shows.

First was Farmtruck
Pinks

Then Chief, Dave, Azn, two times
1st Pinks All Out
2nd Pinks All Out

Re: Is Street Outlaws getting boring? [Re: PorkyPig] #2205402
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The race between JJ and Birdman is a prime example of you never know. There is no comparison in the potential of the cars. On a decent track Birdman's car is a monster and has been 3.80s. On his best pass ever, I think JJ is a second behind that. It's just a medium sized big block with a single plate kit. Line it up on a street or a no prep condition........you never know. JJ can likely use his track tune everywhere, regardless of condition because the car is just not a brute and works well. Birdman is all about power management depending on conditions. Sometimes you hit it, sometimes you don't.

This is why there are so many aborted passes now on SO. They all have WAY more power than they used to, when they could go out and just cut it loose. Now you have to gauge how much you think the road can take on a given day and what you THINK your opponent might be able to go on the condition. These are all low 4 sec cars for the most part but they are NOT going to go low 4s on any road. About the best passes I have seen on a REALLY good road are likely 4.40s. But is the road today a 4.40 road, a 4.50 road, a 4.80 road or a 5.0 road. THAT is the trick.

Also, the reason nitrous cars make really good street race cars is the way they apply power. After some pimp juice burnouts, even a crap road can get really good for a couple hundred feet. So you have the option to hit it really hard early and then lay the power back to get it to make the trip. Most turbo cars are soft early and build power late, which is generally where the road isn't so good. The reason Chiefs new car has looked so good as of late is the weight. That thing weighs about 2400lbs. You can make a 2400lb turbo car 60ft hard and gives him the luxury to race it like a nitrous car. Leave hard and then lay on the boost controller. He is likely just on the springs at the stripe.


I know it was popular, but I thought Pinks All Out was crap. Just a televised index race. What was exciting about that? To me, nothing. Pass Time was a game show and the original Pinks was just handled wrong and the cars were typically junk.

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Re: Is Street Outlaws getting boring? [Re: B5 Bee] #2205414
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Originally Posted By B5 Bee
What is/was best?
Pinks
Pinks All Out
Street Outlaws

I don't know the answer but the 405 has been on all 3 shows.

First was Farmtruck
Pinks

Then Chief, Dave, Azn, two times
1st Pinks All Out
2nd Pinks All Out



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Re: Is Street Outlaws getting boring? [Re: Monte_Smith] #2205435
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Originally Posted By Monte_Smith
The race between JJ and Birdman is a prime example of you never know. There is no comparison in the potential of the cars. On a decent track Birdman's car is a monster and has been 3.80s. On his best pass ever, I think JJ is a second behind that. It's just a medium sized big block with a single plate kit. Line it up on a street or a no prep condition........you never know. JJ can likely use his track tune everywhere, regardless of condition because the car is just not a brute and works well. Birdman is all about power management depending on conditions. Sometimes you hit it, sometimes you don't.

This is why there are so many aborted passes now on SO. They all have WAY more power than they used to, when they could go out and just cut it loose. Now you have to gauge how much you think the road can take on a given day and what you THINK your opponent might be able to go on the condition. These are all low 4 sec cars for the most part but they are NOT going to go low 4s on any road. About the best passes I have seen on a REALLY good road are likely 4.40s. But is the road today a 4.40 road, a 4.50 road, a 4.80 road or a 5.0 road. THAT is the trick.

Also, the reason nitrous cars make really good street race cars is the way they apply power. After some pimp juice burnouts, even a crap road can get really good for a couple hundred feet. So you have the option to hit it really hard early and then lay the power back to get it to make the trip. Most turbo cars are soft early and build power late, which is generally where the road isn't so good. The reason Chiefs new car has looked so good as of late is the weight. That thing weighs about 2400lbs. You can make a 2400lb turbo car 60ft hard and gives him the luxury to race it like a nitrous car. Leave hard and then lay on the boost controller. He is likely just on the springs at the stripe.


I know it was popular, but I thought Pinks All Out was crap. Just a televised index race. What was exciting about that? To me, nothing. Pass Time was a game show and the original Pinks was just handled wrong and the cars were typically junk.




I don't care who you are, if don't think a 4.50-4.60 pass down what is essentially a parking lot is absolutely mind blowing. I'm old enough to have watched PS go way slower than that on a prepped track.


Those guys are fast. And they are fast on a road.


I remember when my local track has asphalt the whole track. The track 45 minutes away had concrete for 100 feet. After one trip to the concrete starting line, almost everyone bitched they couldn't get hooked on asphalt. You can go fast on asphalt, it's just more difficult.


Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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