Re: Stage 6 heads intake recommendations.
[Re: rickb67]
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Can you correct your cam specs for us. Don't know what you have.
Are you stating 282 Advertised for intake and 251 @ 050 for exhaust?
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Re: Stage 6 heads intake recommendations.
[Re: rickb67]
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Rick, check those cam duration numbers again.
I don't recall if you have 1.5 or 1.6 rockers.
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Re: Stage 6 heads intake recommendations.
[Re: rickb67]
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Do you have, or have access to the adapter plates?
68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
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Re: Stage 6 heads intake recommendations.
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I thought you had the stage 6 intake for use with those heads on the RB block. To use a "normal" intake you'll need the spacer plates.
Probably wouldn't help with the bottom end situation, but if the cam is only 252/257 @ .050, there is some power to be gained from going bigger.
Converter is 8", but what does it stall to on the brake with no chip?
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Re: Stage 6 heads intake recommendations.
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I thought you had the stage 6 intake for use with those heads on the RB block. To use a "normal" intake you'll need the spacer plates.
Probably wouldn't help with the bottom end situation, but if the cam is only 252/257 @ .050, there is some power to be gained from going bigger.
Converter is 8", but what does it stall to on the brake with no chip? I think fast is in th right track...sounds like it needs more converter.
Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: Stage 6 heads intake recommendations.
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You can check it one of two ways......(motor and trans warmed up of course):
-Engage the transbrake, floor it with no chip in the two step(if you run one). Hold it long enough to get a good reading(like 2-3)seconds.
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-with the car rolling along at about 10-15mph in high gear, floor it and observe where the tac levels off.
You really want it to be at least 4500rpm for that application.
IMO, this needs to be a known quantity before any other changes are made.
68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
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Re: Stage 6 heads intake recommendations.
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Stage 6 heads don't get a lot of respect but a good Friend of mine has gone lots of 9.70's at Keystone with them in his beautiful street legal duster. He did his own porting work
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Re: Stage 6 heads intake recommendations.
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Nice Duster! My wasn't directed at you; I just threw that on here since I've got a good bit of experience w/ Stage VIs and was (am) curious where the topic goes. FWIW, to the OP... 1. The MP Stage VI 4150 intake (RB w/o spacers) needs a LOT of work to "work", and even then has some drawbacks. It's really a poor match for your combination, especially w/ that small of a cam. 2. There is a vendor on eBarf that reproduces the MP RB intake spacers and has one (1) set left listed as of this post -> CLICK THIS3. The "If it was mine..." answer is: - Pull the heads, if not already off - Get those spacers - Have the spacers mounted to the heads & the heads' roofs raised from the top of the spacer through the intake port in a line-of-sight approach to remove the dip in the roof where the spacers match the heads . - Get a Victor 440 intake and do the plenum mods I've posted on here in the past (assumes you have no issue running a taller intake) - Get a bigger cam; Hmmm... why not let Dwayne spec you a cam, too, since he just prepped your heads? 4. And what everyone else said about figuring out what your converter's stall is... But I suspect -- as long as there are no issues w/ the converter -- the current intake manifold has such a "hole" in the torque curve that it's not doing your 60-ft times any favors. You're .07 slower in the 60 and .2 slower in the 1/4 than I ran at the same MPH. Carry on.
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