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Speedmaster heads? #2201831
11/24/16 02:38 PM
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anybody heard of these?

heads

Re: Speedmaster heads? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #2201834
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Originally Posted By Mr.Yuck
anybody heard of these?

heads




Ya and I'm sure you did too. Speedmaster used to be Procomp and we all know procomp in JUNK. Take a look at ProMaxx on Summit or Jegs. I just checked out a set of their small block heads this Summer and they were VERY nice. And had higher flow numbers than Edelbrock heads on my bench.


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.38@138.67


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Re: Speedmaster heads? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #2202070
11/24/16 10:28 PM
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That particular head in the link is the Procomp copy of the bb victor head.
Same thing that member RAMM used on an Enginemasters build a few years ago.

BradH sent me one to mess around with...... Seemed okay to me.

I'm always leary of the supplied parts in offshore heads, so I'd probably buy them bare and use parts I felt more comfortable with.


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Re: Speedmaster heads? [Re: fast68plymouth] #2202292
11/25/16 01:07 PM
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Yep, both Jesse (RAMM) and Randy Malik have used the Procomp / Speedmaster Victor clones in EMC builds a few years ago.

Out of the box, they're... ummm... "less than impressive." And even w/ good prep work, they are things you can't "fix" because of the way they're cast & machined at the source. Example: They have ugly steps below the exhaust seat rings which would require welding & replacing the seat inserts to correct... NOT cost effective.

Would I run a set? Depends... I know what they're capable of w/ porting (and have posted those results on here in the past), but would probably want to limit them to flat-tappet spring loads (paranoid, maybe?).

No way I'd trust any of their hardware, either, like Dwayne said. If you want to buy a bare set, I can provide you w/ a set of dyno-time only Edelbrock Victor valves for a good price. Dwayne's already seen my "Crash Test Dummy" head in person, so he'd be a good person to send the parts to for machine work, porting, etc.

IMO, they're only a good deal if you can keep the costs down. Oh, and they're going to require .600"-ish offset intake rockers, too, just like the Victors.

Re: Speedmaster heads? [Re: BradH] #2202299
11/25/16 01:21 PM
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Jeff,

Don't buy questionable stuff. Sounds like you would be gutting them and buying valves, springs, retainers and doing a valve job= $$$$$$.


1969 Hemi Charger R/T,
1970 Charger 472 Hemi 6 Sp
1969 Charger Pro Tour Project
1971 Barracuda Convert
1970 440 6pack Superbird,
1968 Fury I Police Pursuit 440 Super Commando 2 door sedan (Black/Blue)
1967 Barracuda Convert
1968 Barracuda Coupe
1972 Charger Rallye wanna be RT
1972 Sebring Plus 440-6 Clone
1969 Coronet Pro Street
2009 Challengeer SRT8 stick
1992-1986 Body 2500 4x4 440 stick
1982 Ramcharger 318 Sniper- getting enhanced.
1991.5 W250 Cummins- Big Chief
Re: Speedmaster heads? [Re: 440PURSUIT] #2202302
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Originally Posted By 440PURSUIT
Jeff,

Don't buy questionable stuff. Sounds like you would be gutting them and buying valves, springs, retainers and doing a valve job= $$$$$$.



And then you still have questionable valve guides and seats. Run while you can as there are to many better options out there.


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.38@138.67


Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Speedmaster heads? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #2202320
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Yup, figured as much. I saw the Jeg's ProMaxx looked like decent.

Re: Speedmaster heads? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #2202340
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Originally Posted By Mr.Yuck
Yup, figured as much. I saw the Jeg's ProMaxx looked like decent.




Here's the post I did on the ProMaxx small block heads. Check out the flow difference between these and the Edelbrock heads and check out the difference in the pictures of both.

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/2140321/1.html


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.38@138.67


Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Speedmaster heads? [Re: pittsburghracer] #2202345
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good info. This is for a mild 440 with a Supercharger...8psi of boost, for my new car.

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Re: Speedmaster heads? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #2202363
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Very nice!!!


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.38@138.67


Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Speedmaster heads? [Re: pittsburghracer] #2202482
11/25/16 06:12 PM
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Jeff,. Edelbrock has a $150 rebate on a pair of heads going til end of year.


1969 Hemi Charger R/T,
1970 Charger 472 Hemi 6 Sp
1969 Charger Pro Tour Project
1971 Barracuda Convert
1970 440 6pack Superbird,
1968 Fury I Police Pursuit 440 Super Commando 2 door sedan (Black/Blue)
1967 Barracuda Convert
1968 Barracuda Coupe
1972 Charger Rallye wanna be RT
1972 Sebring Plus 440-6 Clone
1969 Coronet Pro Street
2009 Challengeer SRT8 stick
1992-1986 Body 2500 4x4 440 stick
1982 Ramcharger 318 Sniper- getting enhanced.
1991.5 W250 Cummins- Big Chief






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