Re: Bellhousing question
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Don't concern yourself too much with the oversize bearing retainer.
If you have a bellhousing that takes the larger of the two "normal" bearing retainers you can pop the retainer off and have it turned down to fit.
It's about the easiest operation you can do on a lathe and takes just a couple minutes to do.
If nothing else, you can sent it to me and I'll turn it to size. It would take longer to put it in a shipping box than to turn it down.
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Re: Bellhousing question
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Don't concern yourself too much with the oversize bearing retainer.
If you have a bellhousing that takes the larger of the two "normal" bearing retainers you can pop the retainer off and have it turned down to fit.
It's about the easiest operation you can do on a lathe and takes just a couple minutes to do.
If nothing else, you can sent it to me and I'll turn it to size. It would take longer to put it in a shipping box than to turn it down. Is it possible to turn down the OD retainer to fit a 4.35 bearing hole when the trans has a 308 front bearing ?? I know it's possible to take the 5.125 retainer down to 4.80 , but to 4.35 ???
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Re: Bellhousing question
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I'm looking to switch my 70 Coronet 318 4 speed to a 833 overdrive transmission from a 86 dodge truck. I need to get a bellhousing that will fit. Will the bellhousing from a 1989 dodge pickup with a v6 bolt up to the 1970 318 motor. The bellhousing will bolt up but what are you going to do about the Hyd clutch setup ?
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Re: Bellhousing question
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Yes...I believe an 89-91 v6 4 speed bell is what your looking for. It will bolt to any LA small block. As I just discovered...you will need an 11" 143 tooth flywheel to make it work. And that bell uses a hydraulic clutch. Is that the bellhousing I sold you ?? I didn't realized that ... 
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Re: Bellhousing question
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Don't concern yourself too much with the oversize bearing retainer.
If you have a bellhousing that takes the larger of the two "normal" bearing retainers you can pop the retainer off and have it turned down to fit.
It's about the easiest operation you can do on a lathe and takes just a couple minutes to do.
If nothing else, you can sent it to me and I'll turn it to size. It would take longer to put it in a shipping box than to turn it down. Is it possible to turn down the OD retainer to fit a 4.35 bearing hole when the trans has a 308 front bearing ?? I know it's possible to take the 5.125 retainer down to 4.80 , but to 4.35 ??? Probably be into the bolt holes or close to it.
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Re: Bellhousing question
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Is it possible to turn down the OD retainer to fit a 4.35 bearing hole when the trans has a 308 front bearing ?? I know it's possible to take the 5.125 retainer down to 4.80 , but to 4.35 ??? Diplomat440 is right, you'll be into the bolt holes, won't work. Maybe a small block scattershield would take the big bearing retainer (308 bearing, not OD)?  jess
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Re: Bellhousing question
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I didn't know the 1989 truck v6 bell was hyd. I found one in a junkyard and before I pulled it I wanted to see if it would work with my OD833 and what else I should take off the truck to use.
JohnRR, What would I need to switch to a Hyd clutch setup? Master cylinder adapted to the clutch pedal under the dash and a line to the slave cylinder on the passenger side of the bellhousing.
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Re: Bellhousing question
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Yes...I believe an 89-91 v6 4 speed bell is what your looking for. It will bolt to any LA small block. As I just discovered...you will need an 11" 143 tooth flywheel to make it work. And that bell uses a hydraulic clutch. Is that the bellhousing I sold you ?? I didn't realized that ... Yep...  But that's ok...my fault for not checking before I bolting the trans in the truck! I found out when starter didn't engage the flywheel.Ive got a new flywheel on the way..should be here tomorrow. You gave me a great deal on it...and it will work for me, just need a 143 tooth flywheel to match. I guess the later magnums use a 143 tooth as well.
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Re: Bellhousing question
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I have a d100 v6 hydro bell that had the 833OD 4 speed ( it was also used in DAKS with a a535 5 speed (bolt in replacement for 883OD units)
it also has the 435 granny tranny bolt pattern
if the one you saw in the JY is duel bolt pattern you need to score it as it is a hens tooth. should be able to sell/trade it for what you want.
would not be that hard to make up a hydro MC and use the stock slave cyl for a hydro clutch in a car.
I bought a flywheel for a 78 318 at auto zone cheap, also flywheel for a 94 ram 1500 cheap,
order a 318 fly for a 85 d150 that's a 143 tooth for a 10.5 or 11.5 disc Do you have a part number for this bellhousing?
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Re: Bellhousing question
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I have a d100 v6 hydro bell that had the 833OD 4 speed ( it was also used in DAKS with a a535 5 speed (bolt in replacement for 883OD units)
it also has the 435 granny tranny bolt pattern
if the one you saw in the JY is duel bolt pattern you need to score it as it is a hens tooth. should be able to sell/trade it for what you want.
would not be that hard to make up a hydro MC and use the stock slave cyl for a hydro clutch in a car.
I bought a flywheel for a 78 318 at auto zone cheap, also flywheel for a 94 ram 1500 cheap,
order a 318 fly for a 85 d150 that's a 143 tooth for a 10.5 or 11.5 disc Do you have a part number for this bellhousing? Do you want a part number or casting number or both  
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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Re: Bellhousing question
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I have a d100 v6 hydro bell that had the 833OD 4 speed ( it was also used in DAKS with a a535 5 speed (bolt in replacement for 883OD units)
it also has the 435 granny tranny bolt pattern
if the one you saw in the JY is duel bolt pattern you need to score it as it is a hens tooth. should be able to sell/trade it for what you want.
would not be that hard to make up a hydro MC and use the stock slave cyl for a hydro clutch in a car.
I bought a flywheel for a 78 318 at auto zone cheap, also flywheel for a 94 ram 1500 cheap,
order a 318 fly for a 85 d150 that's a 143 tooth for a 10.5 or 11.5 disc Do you have a part number for this bellhousing? Do you want a part number or casting number or both #4471829?
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