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EvapoRust on anodizing? #2191366
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The anodized trim directly above the door panels on my Dart need to be cleaned up. The anodized part is really nice but the mounting flange(hidden under the door panel) is rusty. If I soak the trim in EvapoRust, will it affect the anodizing?

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Anodizing is only applied to aluminum. Aluminum doesn't rust. Therefore if your trim is rusting its not anodized.

Now if the flange is rusting but you're sure the trim is aluminum, I'd take the two pieces apart and clean up the rusty steel pieces.

But here's a point to consider: when two dissimilar "bare" metals are in contact with each other a process called electrolysis occurs. Read "corrosion". And in the case of steel and aluminum, the aluminum will corrode first and fastest. Bare aluminum also corrodes quickly on its own, that's why its anodized. So the anodizing is also the barrier between the steel and aluminum to prevent the electrolysis. Moral of all this - DO NOT remove the anodizing !!!

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That trim on a dart should be stainless that the door panel goes into. Every 68 dart I've seen so far has been stainless.

I have seen them rust stained from the door steel. Ive always got it to buff off on the buffing wheel.

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Re: EvapoRust on anodizing? [Re: burdar] #2191481
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It's cloudy like anodizing. I guess it's just dirty.

The door panels must have stayed damp for a long period of time. The mounting flange is rusting. I assume EvapoRust will take care of it?

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mix 50/50 with water, do not let sit for more than 30 minutes or so.... It will remove coatings if left for too long.

Re: EvapoRust on anodizing? [Re: burdar] #2192485
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Do not put anodizing in Evaporust

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They have to be stainless. They are one solid stamped piece...not multiple pieces connected together. They are just really dirty. I cleaned one section with steel wool and it cleaned up OK. It needs a good polish though.

Here is the extent of the rust on the mounting flange. I assume EvapoRust is OK to use to clean this up?

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Stainless shouldn't rust like that ... that's why its called "stainless". My guess is its chromed steel. Check with a magnet, stainless isn't magnetic.

If its chrome then you want to avoid hitting the surface that shows with steel wool - use a good metal polish.

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They are chromed steel.

Re: EvapoRust on anodizing? [Re: Stanton] #2193711
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Stainless shouldn't rust like that ... that's why its called "stainless". My guess is its chromed steel. Check with a magnet, stainless isn't magnetic.

If its chrome then you want to avoid hitting the surface that shows with steel wool - use a good metal polish.


Stainless can be magnetic. The stainless front window moldings on muscle years A/B/C body's are magnetic and all stainless. Due to metal composition and/or the working/forming of it.

http://www.bssa.org.uk/faq.php?id=24

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Is stainless steel non-magnetic?

It is commonly stated that “stainless steel is non-magnetic”. This is not strictly true and the real situation is rather more complicated. The degree of magnetic response or magnetic permeability is derived from the microstructure of the steel. A totally non-magnetic material has a relative magnetic permeability of 1. Austenitic structures are totally non-magnetic and so a 100% austenitic stainless steel would have a permeability of 1. In practice this is not achieved. There is always a small amount of ferrite and/or martensite in the steel and so permeability values are always above 1. Typical values for standard austenitic stainless steels can be in the order of 1.05 – 1.1. See Composition effects on the magnetic permeability of austenitic stainless steels

It is possible for the magnetic permeability of austenitic steels to be changed during processing. For example, cold work and welding are liable to increase the amount of martensite and ferrite respectively in the steel. A familiar example is in a stainless steel sink where the flat drainer has little magnetic response whereas the pressed bowl has a higher response due to the formation of martensite particularly in the corners.

In practical terms, austenitic stainless steels are used for “non-magnetic” applications, for example magnetic resonance imaging (MRI). In these cases, it is often necessary to agree a maximum magnetic permeability between customer and supplier. It can be as low as 1.004.

Martensitic, ferritic, duplex and precipitation hardening steels are magnetic.

Re: EvapoRust on anodizing? [Re: burdar] #2193833
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Stainless can be magnetic. The stainless front window moldings on muscle years A/B/C body's are magnetic and all stainless. Due to metal composition and/or the working/forming of it.


iagree The moldings around the convertible top and the belt moldings are also magnetic.

I read on the EvapoRust website that it's safe for stainless so I should be good to go. I'll get a section of 2" PVC and a cap so I can soak them. The car sat outside with the top down for a few years. The door panels must have stayed damp for a long time to cause that.







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