Re: oiling mods
[Re: The Shadow]
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10/15/16 11:15 PM
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some good reading on this subject: go to www.moparchat.com then scoll down to & click on "circle track chat" then read thru Sanborns' oiling mods that are in a sticky at the top of the page and go to www.forabodiesonly.com & scroll down to & click on "small block Mopar engines" & read thru Guitar Jones" oiling mods that are in a sticky at the top of the page. both SB orientated but primo material & alot carries over to or can be adapted to BB/hemi
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Re: oiling mods
[Re: The Shadow]
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10/16/16 12:03 AM
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Melling 10342 pump. Other then that if you're spending much time above 7000 rpm, increasing oil capacity to the 10-11qt range seems to be the answer.
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Re: oiling mods
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10/16/16 09:35 PM
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You said you're doing a 6.1. Never have I heard of lack of oil to the topend, ever. I have heard that a stock 6.1 pump will empty the stock pan above 7,000 rpm in about 11 seconds. Have you used a Hellcat pump on a 6.1? Has anyone? So since the factory pumps are now made by Melling supposedly anyway, I would just use the 10342 "Select" pump which I do use in my 6.1. Seems they are blueprinted and made with a little extra care. Maybe they are in the Hellcats.
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Re: oiling mods
[Re: The Shadow]
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10/16/16 10:33 PM
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Im not worried about the top end oil. I can tell you that the 6.2 pump has a larger outlet hole and is taller then the stock 6.1 pump. It will take nothing to shorten it if need be I figure the 6.2 stuff will be pretty much be the best offerings on the market and 1/2 the price of the melling.
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Re: oiling mods
[Re: The Shadow]
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10/16/16 10:47 PM
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You said the the feed to the cam is a little small, that would effect top end oiling I think. Seriously the only issues I have heard of were with stock 5.7 cranks and the stock 6-7 qt pans getting emptied by the end of a pass when people start eclipsing the 7k mark. Barton IIRC used a 12 qt pan and was going through the traps at 8900. How much RPM are trying to run? The exhaust valves and rockers are oiled from the being submerged in oil while running so anything to increase drainback would be probably the best oil mod IMO. LIGHT oil seems to be what the engineers leaned on, all 6.1, SRT 6.4's and the Hellcat 6.2's were designed with 0W40 in mind. This returns to the pan pretty quickly.
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Re: oiling mods
[Re: The Shadow]
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10/16/16 11:26 PM
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Im still in big block mode. The feed from the main oil galley to the crank is small. It will be hydraulic roller so I would imagine 7k max
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Re: oiling mods
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10/16/16 11:32 PM
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Enlarging that to match that Hellcat pump surely couldnt hurt. Blocking the squirters is another thing guys do in strip builds.
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Re: oiling mods
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10/24/16 08:50 AM
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help me comprehend what getting rid of the squirters will help with
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Re: oiling mods
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10/24/16 10:47 PM
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i planned on running mine. have melling 10342 and was worried about sucking the milodon pan dry. shouldn't be over 7k so hoping its not a problem. 72dart, i noticed you run an accusump....for the extra capacity?
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