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Re: Hughes 426 small block stroker kit, all show or all go? [Re: gch] #217040
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Sorry I didn't "chime in" on this one. It seemed like the guys who have them were giving pretty good advice and testimonials. I agreee on the No (or very little NOS). Some guys have asked about a blower. It would be okay except we cannot get any lower compression because of the ring package.
The kit itself is all top quality premium parts. We have had zero failures or problems with it. When matched with the right cam and heads they are torque monsters. A lot of fun on the street.
I haven't been on here much becasue we are getting ready to tgo to the Race & Performance Expo in St. Charles, Il this weekend and , thankfully, the phones are still real busy.
Kevin @ Hughes

Re: Hughes 426 small block stroker kit, all show or all go? [Re: Hughes] #217041
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I've been following this post, and hope Im not hi-jacking it, Id just like to know if used on the street, what kind of heads/cam combo would work well, and make this a real fun torque monster on the street??
Thanks!

Wally.

Re: Hughes 426 small block stroker kit, all show or all go? [Re: Moparnut426] #217042
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Im really surprised your looking here, when I was looking into the 426 kit, most info came from the dak crowd.

The hughes 426 kit was one of the best machined out of the box kits ive ever gotten A+.

Now im on a 440 small block stroker and that should be a bit mo-better if the heads are right.

From my research and I cant say ive driven one yet, but many say going over the 4 inch mark is like driving a whole different beast as far as strokers go, most this is from the dakota guys as well.

But as far as the hughes kit fitment...it was right on.


You have to deal with a plethora of stupid before you can get any good off Dakota forums. This forum is great for information on this subject (engine building/strokers/generally going really fast). Plus, members here are going faster and going faster for longer then most Dakota guys are right now.

I'm not completely set on a 426 stroker either. I would like to see other options too.




Are you restricted to using the magnum block, if not, use an r3 block, and build a 440, or use the r3 block build a 440, and use magnum R/T aluminum heads and go that rout.




I'm restricted in the sense that I already have many of the mangum style parts. I would like to go R3/XR1 block, but that's going to blow out any semblence of a budget, especially considering it sounds like my ported eddies wouldn't keep up.

Re: Hughes 426 small block stroker kit, all show or all go? [Re: Hughes] #217043
02/11/09 05:46 PM
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Sorry I didn't "chime in" on this one. It seemed like the guys who have them were giving pretty good advice and testimonials. I agreee on the No (or very little NOS). Some guys have asked about a blower. It would be okay except we cannot get any lower compression because of the ring package.
The kit itself is all top quality premium parts. We have had zero failures or problems with it. When matched with the right cam and heads they are torque monsters. A lot of fun on the street.
I haven't been on here much becasue we are getting ready to tgo to the Race & Performance Expo in St. Charles, Il this weekend and , thankfully, the phones are still real busy.
Kevin @ Hughes




Have you guys tried a shorter rod to allow for a longer piston/bigger ring pack? I know that the rod ratio would get a bit crazy, but chevy and ford SB strokers have been known to run similar or smaller rod ratios.

Re: Hughes 426 small block stroker kit, all show or all go? #217044
02/11/09 05:54 PM
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One similar option I've been thinking about is 4" stroke,
4 and 1/8" bore for 427CI in one of the newer siamese Mopar blocks (now that availability is good on the blocks). It gives up some CI but with all the extra wall thickness, 4 bolt mains etc, I'd think it should be able to take a beating.

Re: Hughes 426 small block stroker kit, all show or all go? [Re: ZIPPY] #217045
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I was seriously considering the HUGHES 426 crank/rod combo with custom slugs in a R3 block (around 4.185 bore), super commando aluminum heads, and a barely noticeable HUGHES cam for a quiet sleeper for my '65 D100. that should put me somewhere around 460 cubic inches. A sizable chunk of change, but it's not like I can take it with me......

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It is a good kit, since alot are going bigger and bigger inch wise, its clear to me from first had exp, that after 410 inches or so its time to look into some serious head flow. I have found that the eddy and indybrocks seem maxed out about there.

My 410 eddie head motor I feel is not that far off from my 452 with indybrock heads, ive not run the hughes 426 motor yet except for on the stand. So maybe W2/5 or 360-1s is the answer to really get the power over 400 plus inches. But thats obvious.

Im set to have the 426 on the pump next week prior to the sale of it...it will be interseting to see the tq numbers, it has the sms. beck style lifters on a cam hughes speced for the motor. Wed of next week I should have the dyno sheet.

The kit is of great quality, I do not understand the piston choice though, a good K1 crank, rods, but I think maybe one step better piston might be of some help.

Ive never asked, but why no spray on these kits....its the pistons, right?

But I will say this, for the money and ease the 426 kit is a good way to get big inches without imo going to the next level where the parts are 3x higher.

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Well, the Super Commando 440 SB crate motor from Ma Mopar comes with "AS CAST" un-ported Super Commando aluminum heads for what-around 525-535 HP. They should be capable of quite a bit more with some massaging.

Re: Hughes 426 small block stroker kit, all show or all go? #217048
10/09/09 05:19 PM
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we have a racer here in south east Queensland that has a hughes 426 in an A body hardtop coupe, it seems to get quicker every time he puts it on the track, last I saw it in the mid 10s, its consistent & reliable, its raised my eyebrows many times, Iv been a big block guy for decades & its got me thinkin I tell ya

Re: Hughes 426 small block stroker kit, all show or all go? [Re: SG duster] #217049
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I would imagine this Hughes 426 CID with Indy W2 heads,850 E-85 carb, single plane intake with 12.5:1 CR, a good Solid Roller cam would absolutely scream.

I bet 600+ N/A Hp would be really easy.

Re: Hughes 426 small block stroker kit, all show or all go? [Re: Hughes] #217050
10/12/09 06:20 PM
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Kevin said very little NOS,how much is considerd very little. I was wondering because I am interested in that stroker kit also.


1.33 60 ft,6.21 at 110.59 in the 1/8, pump gas small block,2950lbs,drag radials,mufflers and driven to track ...
Re: Hughes 426 small block stroker kit, all show or all go? [Re: D-50] #217051
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It would be interesting to see if "A Little" NOS is less or greater than original displacement * .3.

One version of the 426 Hughes small block has a 9.74:1 CR would be interesting to see if that would be good for a Pro-Charged combo.

Re: Hughes 426 small block stroker kit, all show or all #217052
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Did anyone ever answer the question as to whether a shorter rod could increase the piston size?


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