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Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? [Re: CHRGR69] #216784
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Try filling a stock Slant 6 Oil Filter prior to install....Aint gonna happen without a big mess




Try it with a 383/440.




On the 440 I can easily fill the filter to about 1/2 way and still spin it on without spilling a drop. Done it MANY times.




Whats the point, other the the obvious? These engines are almost bullet proof. You think they filled the filters back in the day? Think not.


Oh but we did when possible in the dealership where I worked. saw a few engines (mostly BBlocks) air lock with a empty filter.

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? [Re: dave571] #216785
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Nonsence and I dont believe the poll is real world correct, most engines it would be a pain in the rear.


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Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? [Re: mopargem] #216786
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Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? [Re: mopargem] #216787
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Nonsence and I dont believe the poll is real world correct, most engines it would be a pain in the rear.




Read the responses. I have not installed a DRY filter in probably 15 years. Even on an inverted filter you can at least wet the media. Is it anal? Yea probably, but there is no downside, costs nothing, takes seconds, so why not.
I do agree that in many cases the 'time-to-pressure' difference may be negligable, but again--why not?

On horizontal mounted filters(Mopar big blocks being one) I can easily fill the filter half full without spilling a drop during install.

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? [Re: mopars4ever] #216788
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I fill them up about 3/4 of the way on small blocks and maybe a bit less on big blocks. Even on the slant6 I had I put some in so it wasn't completely dry. It may not make a huge difference but I feel better doing it that way.

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? [Re: 440newport] #216789
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I fill them up about 3/4 of the way on small blocks and maybe a bit less on big blocks. Even on the slant6 I had I put some in so it wasn't completely dry. It may not make a huge difference but I feel better doing it that way.


my thoughts exactly


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Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? [Re: bigD] #216790
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never fill mine ever on hemi or 440, spin on new filter, pull coil wire and turn key. all filled and primed, put back coil wire all done and fire


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Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? [Re: hemigod426] #216791
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I did on my Monte Carlo because the 3.8L was really easy. The 440 and my 2.2L, no way.

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? [Re: 440newport] #216792
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It may not make a huge difference but I feel better doing it that way.




I don't fill, chance of making a mess is greater than possible engine damage. A gazillion quickie lubes can't be wrong.

But, if it makes you feel good, go for it.

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? [Re: dave571] #216793
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I'm tempted to try this, just for info.

Spin off you current filter, and spin one on, that you've filled with oil.

Then start the car. Time how long till you have oil pressure.

Spin it off, and try again with a dry one.

I doubt the difference in pressure up time will even be measurable on most car's.
The oil pump displaces quite a bit of oil, very quickly.




Thank You My thoughts exactly.


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Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #216794
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.........Is it anal? Yea probably, but there is no downside, costs nothing, takes seconds, so why not.
I do agree that in many cases the 'time-to-pressure' difference may be negligable, but again--why not?

On horizontal mounted filters(Mopar big blocks being one) I can easily fill the filter half full without spilling a drop during install.





Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #216795
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If the point is obvious (and it is), why are you asking for another?


I wasn't. But what is obvious, you had to!


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Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #216796
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Try filling a stock Slant 6 Oil Filter prior to install....Aint gonna happen without a big mess




Try it with a 383/440.




On the 440 I can easily fill the filter to about 1/2 way and still spin it on without spilling a drop. Done it MANY times.




I fill my 440 filters as much as I can before putting it on. Again, pretty much a no brainer.

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? [Re: hemigod426] #216797
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never fill mine ever on hemi or 440, spin on new filter, pull coil wire and turn key. all filled and primed, put back coil wire all done and fire




Not a bad idea.

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? [Re: bigD] #216798
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It does make a difference over the life of the car.

Even better disconnect the coil wire to prevent it from starting until properly primed.

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? [Re: GwaiiEagle] #216799
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I do. But the deal with taking the coil wire off, I tried that it, it gets oil pressure faster buy just starting it than turning it over until the light/live gauge goes off without the coil wire hooked up.

Besides that, have you ever tried that with a blaster two coil. It will jump fire out of the end of the coil and ark on the side of the coil. I couldn't believe it had that much ump!

The first time I did it I left the coil wire on it and it was jumping from the end of the coil wire to the firewall, then I took it off from the coil and it did what I said above. So then next time I did it I just unhooked the MSD box.


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Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? [Re: bigD] #216800
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That settles it from now on I am going to R&R the dist/intermediate shaft & manually prime w a drill on each oil change


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Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? [Re: RapidRobert] #216801
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I have been driving for almost 40 years and during that time I have accumulated over 1 million miles of driving. Almost all of my cars have accumulated well over 200,000 miles before I have retired them and not one of them had an internal engine failure or was the engine the reason for the car being retired.

I change the oil and filter at 5k miles or 7.5k miles if it has synthetic in it. I have never filled or tried to fill a filter. Never even heard of it being done until I started following forums like this one about 10 years or so ago.

In theory its a good idea in practice it doesn't make a bit of difference in the life of the engine.


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Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? [Re: RapidRobert] #216802
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Never a pre oiled filer on my 1990 D 150 w/318 I sold with 336,000 miles, was finally developing a little smoke, mainly at start up (valve guides?) still had ok oil pressure. Just sold this fall my 1997 Aerostar with just over 230,000 and it had excellent oil pressure and no smoke at all.


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Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? [Re: mopargem] #216803
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For years my local dealership has been swearing that if you have a turbo engine you better prefill before starting. When I had my turbo Daytona,they told me point blank I'd better prefill it by cranking the engine over with the coil wire grounded. They claimed they had actually replaced some turbos and had seen premature turbo failures due to oil changes when people started them up with dry filters. When the CTD's came along, they added these engines to the list. Bottom line, I prefill the filter on my CTD and did on the Daytona until I finally wore it out. The other engines I really don't see a need and never have prefilled.


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