Do you fill your oil filters before installing?

Posted By: mopargem

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/08/09 01:30 AM

Nonsence and I dont believe the poll is real world correct, most engines it would be a pain in the rear.

Posted By: mopars4ever

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/08/09 01:35 AM

i don`t

Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/08/09 01:43 AM

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Nonsence and I dont believe the poll is real world correct, most engines it would be a pain in the rear.

Read the responses. I have not installed a DRY filter in probably 15 years. Even on an inverted filter you can at least wet the media. Is it anal? Yea probably, but there is no downside, costs nothing, takes seconds, so why not.
I do agree that in many cases the 'time-to-pressure' difference may be negligable, but again--why not?

On horizontal mounted filters(Mopar big blocks being one) I can easily fill the filter half full without spilling a drop during install.

Posted By: 440newport

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/08/09 01:44 AM

I fill them up about 3/4 of the way on small blocks and maybe a bit less on big blocks. Even on the slant6 I had I put some in so it wasn't completely dry. It may not make a huge difference but I feel better doing it that way.

Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/08/09 01:57 AM

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I fill them up about 3/4 of the way on small blocks and maybe a bit less on big blocks. Even on the slant6 I had I put some in so it wasn't completely dry. It may not make a huge difference but I feel better doing it that way.

my thoughts exactly

Posted By: hemigod426

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/08/09 02:37 AM

never fill mine ever on hemi or 440, spin on new filter, pull coil wire and turn key. all filled and primed, put back coil wire all done and fire

Posted By: Chilort

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/08/09 02:44 AM

I did on my Monte Carlo because the 3.8L was really easy. The 440 and my 2.2L, no way.

Posted By: BDW

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/08/09 02:44 AM

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It may not make a huge difference but I feel better doing it that way.

I don't fill, chance of making a mess is greater than possible engine damage. A gazillion quickie lubes can't be wrong.

But, if it makes you feel good, go for it.

Posted By: CHRGR69

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/08/09 02:49 AM

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I'm tempted to try this, just for info.

Spin off you current filter, and spin one on, that you've filled with oil.

Then start the car. Time how long till you have oil pressure.

Spin it off, and try again with a dry one.

I doubt the difference in pressure up time will even be measurable on most car's.
The oil pump displaces quite a bit of oil, very quickly.

Thank You My thoughts exactly.

Posted By: challenger70

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/08/09 02:52 AM

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.........Is it anal? Yea probably, but there is no downside, costs nothing, takes seconds, so why not.
I do agree that in many cases the 'time-to-pressure' difference may be negligable, but again--why not?

On horizontal mounted filters(Mopar big blocks being one) I can easily fill the filter half full without spilling a drop during install.

Posted By: CHRGR69

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/08/09 02:53 AM

If the point is obvious (and it is), why are you asking for another?

I wasn't.

But what is obvious, you had to!

Posted By: Aero426

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/08/09 05:10 AM

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never fill mine ever on hemi or 440, spin on new filter, pull coil wire and turn key. all filled and primed, put back coil wire all done and fire

Not a bad idea.

Posted By: GwaiiEagle

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/08/09 06:38 AM

It does make a difference over the life of the car.

Even better disconnect the coil wire to prevent it from starting until properly primed.

Posted By: Robbins

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/08/09 06:53 AM

I do. But the deal with taking the coil wire off, I tried that it, it gets oil pressure faster buy just starting it than turning it over until the light/live gauge goes off without the coil wire hooked up.

Besides that, have you ever tried that with a blaster two coil. It will jump fire out of the end of the coil and ark on the side of the coil. I couldn't believe it had that much ump!

The first time I did it I left the coil wire on it and it was jumping from the end of the coil wire to the firewall, then I took it off from the coil and it did what I said above. So then next time I did it I just unhooked the MSD box.

Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/08/09 11:24 AM

That settles it from now on I am going to R&R the dist/intermediate shaft & manually prime w a drill on each oil change

Posted By: dgc333

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/08/09 01:44 PM

I have been driving for almost 40 years and during that time I have accumulated over 1 million miles of driving. Almost all of my cars have accumulated well over 200,000 miles before I have retired them and not one of them had an internal engine failure or was the engine the reason for the car being retired.

I change the oil and filter at 5k miles or 7.5k miles if it has synthetic in it. I have never filled or tried to fill a filter. Never even heard of it being done until I started following forums like this one about 10 years or so ago.

In theory its a good idea in practice it doesn't make a bit of difference in the life of the engine.

Posted By: mopargem

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/08/09 01:48 PM

Never a pre oiled filer on my 1990 D 150 w/318 I sold with 336,000 miles, was finally developing a little smoke, mainly at start up (valve guides?) still had ok oil pressure. Just sold this fall my 1997 Aerostar with just over 230,000 and it had excellent oil pressure and no smoke at all.

Posted By: 6PakBee

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/08/09 02:05 PM

For years my local dealership has been swearing that if you have a turbo engine you better prefill before starting. When I had my turbo Daytona,they told me point blank I'd better prefill it by cranking the engine over with the coil wire grounded. They claimed they had actually replaced some turbos and had seen premature turbo failures due to oil changes when people started them up with dry filters. When the CTD's came along, they added these engines to the list. Bottom line, I prefill the filter on my CTD and did on the Daytona until I finally wore it out. The other engines I really don't see a need and never have prefilled.

Posted By: MoparforLife

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/08/09 02:20 PM

Such a debate over something that only takes a couple of added seconds to do and doesn't cost anything. It isn't like it is doing something at great time loss, is difficult, or high cost. Any time that you can decrease the amount of time it takes for oil pressure to build it is added time to engine life. You spend a lot of money for a engine or engine build why not spend nothing to add a little lifetime to that engine. I have seen a lot of $$$ spent on things that will do less. Whether you feel it helps or not it sure isn't going to hurt.

Posted By: monoptn

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/08/09 03:19 PM

I won't debate the merits of filling vs not filling. But something did just strike me as funny. A meticulous mopar guy like me (and most of us here), carefully changing his oil, then filling the filter. Then, after carefully warming up the motor, dropping the hammer, laying a couple of black marks, and burning through the gears at near the redline.

Posted By: stubbs300

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/08/09 05:30 PM

We all have our opinions on this subject and some are more pigheaded about the yea's or nay's of prefilling it or not. I say, "A ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure!" I have been doing it for years and I have noticed that in some cars, knocking as well as the pressure comes up quicker with pre-filling the filter first.
The way to prevent oil from spilling out is to fill the filter first and let it sit while you drain the pan. You will notice that the oil has been soaked into the filter. I have even gone as far as adding more to the filter to ensure it's full. To each there own.

Hey, you do what you do, and I do what I do!

Posted By: MoparforLife

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/08/09 05:58 PM

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We all have our opinions on this subject and some are more pigheaded about the yea's or nay's of prefilling it or not. I say, "A ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure!" I have been doing it for years and I have noticed that in some cars, knocking as well as the pressure comes up quicker with pre-filling the filter first.
The way to prevent oil from spilling out is to fill the filter first and let it sit while you drain the pan. You will notice that the oil has been soaked into the filter. I have even gone as far as adding more to the filter to ensure it's full. To each there own.

Hey, you do what you do, and I do what I do!

Posted By: CR8CRSHR

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/08/09 06:54 PM

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We all have our opinions on this subject and some are more pigheaded about the yea's or nay's of prefilling it or not. I say, "A ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure!" I have been doing it for years and I have noticed that in some cars, knocking as well as the pressure comes up quicker with pre-filling the filter first.
The way to prevent oil from spilling out is to fill the filter first and let it sit while you drain the pan. You will notice that the oil has been soaked into the filter. I have even gone as far as adding more to the filter to ensure it's full. To each there own.

Hey, you do what you do, and I do what I do!

Right on Little Brother.

He does what he has to do and I do what I have to do. He is the Baby after all...Gotta Love him....

Posted By: Michael

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/08/09 09:43 PM

I only fill the ones that are upright---oil and fuel.

Posted By: tonycpe

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/08/09 10:31 PM

So that's why a slant six sounds like an old type writer.

Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/08/09 10:54 PM

this is the last time I am going to open this thread. Now where is my preoiling shaft

Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/08/09 11:08 PM

And as the poll states...three out four of us do it. Notice that not one person has offered up a why not reason other than the chance of spillage, and coming from someone who doesn't do it, how would they know how NOT to spill?

Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/08/09 11:20 PM

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We all have our opinions on this subject and some are more pigheaded about the yea's or nay's of prefilling it or not. I say, "A ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure!" I have been doing it for years and I have noticed that in some cars, knocking as well as the pressure comes up quicker with pre-filling the filter first.
The way to prevent oil from spilling out is to fill the filter first and let it sit while you drain the pan. You will notice that the oil has been soaked into the filter. I have even gone as far as adding more to the filter to ensure it's full. To each there own.

Hey, you do what you do, and I do what I do!

Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/08/09 11:21 PM

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And as the poll states...three out four of us do it. Notice that not one person has offered up a why not reason other than the chance of spillage, and coming from someone who doesn't do it, how would they know how NOT to spill?

why beat the subject to death ? you are NOT going to change the mind of those that have their mind made up on the subject .

Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/08/09 11:25 PM

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And as the poll states...three out four of us do it. Notice that not one person has offered up a why not reason other than the chance of spillage, and coming from someone who doesn't do it, how would they know how NOT to spill?

why beat the subject to death ? you are NOT going to change the mind of those that have their mind made up on the subject .

Not out to change anyones mind, just find it interesting. Kind of a sharing of experiences/practices/ideas. Oh wait thats Moparts!
I am surprised this thread has continued so long, and yea I am part of the reason--so are you John! Enjoy

Posted By: Mopar1

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/08/09 11:33 PM

If you go through the trouble of changing the oil and filter, why would you take a chance on pushing unfiltered oil through your engine? Filling the filter may bring the oil pressure up a little quicker but, the first shot of oil is not filtered. Just because the new oil is in a new jug, it's not a guarrentee the oil is perfectly clean.

Posted By: gamagoat6x6

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/08/09 11:37 PM

Well, here`s a little tidbit for y`all right out of the FSM for my truck:

(7) Using a new pressure relief valve gasket,
install the relief valve plug. Tighten the plug to 20
N�m (15 ft. lbs.) torque.
(8) Install oil filter that has been filled with oil.

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Posted By: NITROUSN

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/09/09 12:00 AM

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Well, here`s a little tidbit for y`all right out of the FSM for my truck:

(7) Using a new pressure relief valve gasket,
install the relief valve plug. Tighten the plug to 20
N�m (15 ft. lbs.) torque.
(8) Install oil filter that has been filled with oil.

Is that not from a pump repair section? I believe they want you to do it that way so the crank driven pump does not lose its prime. What does the book state in the maintence section on filter change??

Posted By: DaytonaTurbo

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/09/09 12:16 AM

I never did prefill an oil filter. I suppose it's a good idea, I just never bothered. No reason not to, no reason to either, I don't think any engine has ever been harmed by it. If the engine was actually losing critical oil pressure during a dry start-up I think we'd hear something, be it lifters bleeding down or whatnot. I watched the oil pressure gauge on mine after an oil change and the extra time it took to start building oil pressure(compared to normal) was almost nothing.

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When I had my turbo Daytona,they told me point blank I'd better prefill it by cranking the engine over with the coil wire grounded. They claimed they had actually replaced some turbos and had seen premature turbo failures due to oil changes when people started them up with dry filters.

I have to LOL at that. At idle speed the turbine on the turbo is not even spinning, or if it is, it's barely just slightly moving. So unless you change your oil, start the engine up and immediately mash the pedal to full boost, I don't see how you could have a problem. Even then oil would get there so quick you could never do any damage.

Posted By: A38s!

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/09/09 12:25 AM

I had an old 93 VW VR6 with the open element cannister filter. Loved it. Was super easy to prefill. Cap was almost 6 qts full. Got me in the habit to do with everything I can.

Posted By: MarkZ

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/09/09 12:36 AM

I always fill my oil filters prior to installing them. Even on my F150 I6 where the filter is mounted horizontally. I can at least get it half full without spilling a drop.

Posted By: John_Kunkel

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/09/09 12:41 AM

FWIW, some filters have a standpipe for use in "upside down" installations, the Baldwin B253 has the same mounting dimensions as the typical Mopar and has a standpipe to help prevent drainback.

Posted By: GoodysGotaCuda

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/09/09 12:52 AM

Put me down as a "no i dont", but i crank a few seconds before starting

Posted By: gamagoat6x6

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/09/09 01:35 AM

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Well, here`s a little tidbit for y`all right out of the FSM for my truck:

(7) Using a new pressure relief valve gasket,
install the relief valve plug. Tighten the plug to 20
N�m (15 ft. lbs.) torque.
(8) Install oil filter that has been filled with oil.

Is that not from a pump repair section? I believe they want you to do it that way so the crank driven pump does not lose its prime. What does the book state in the maintence section on filter change??

Filter is after the pump. Why would it matter?

Posted By: mopargem

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/09/09 03:36 AM

Man I cant wait till spring, I think we all need to go outside!

Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/09/09 03:39 AM

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Man I cant wait till spring, I think we all need to go outside!

& prime our engines

Posted By: bigD

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/09/09 07:35 PM

WOW,thanks for all the replys. My intention was not to start such a heated debate as to "yes do it","no don't do it" (because I have used both methods),it was to see if I'm the only one who does.Well it turns out I'm not,but that doesnt mean installing the filter dry is incorrect either(we did it all the time at a dealership I once worked at).It all boils down to whatever works for you.Now we can move on to more important things such as

,D.

Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/09/09 07:39 PM

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Not out to change anyones mind, just find it interesting. Kind of a sharing of experiences/practices/ideas. Oh wait thats Moparts!
I am surprised this thread has continued so long, and yea I am part of the reason--so are you John! Enjoy

that's fine as long as others WANT to hear what one has to say/thinks ...

Posted By: GTX MATT

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/09/09 08:12 PM

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never fill mine ever on hemi or 440, spin on new filter, pull coil wire and turn key. all filled and primed, put back coil wire all done and fire

I do the same thing, I try to wet the filter though. I dont have a 440 anymore but will soon. I fill the filter on the 273 3/4, still pull the coil and turn it over though.

Posted By: ThermoQuad

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/09/09 08:35 PM

I will raise the bar

further...

Do you pre-oil that big dollar engine with an accusump before cold starting??

Accusump

Posted By: NANKET

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/09/09 08:37 PM

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never fill mine ever on hemi or 440, spin on new filter, pull coil wire and turn key. all filled and primed, put back coil wire all done and fire

I do the same thing, I try to wet the filter though. I dont have a 440 anymore but will soon. I fill the filter on the 273 3/4, still pull the coil and turn it over though.

Why in the world do so many people pull the coil wire and crank the engine???? Talk about engine damage, start the darn thing and get that oil pump working asap, plenty of oil left on the bearings. Mopar RB engins have been around since 1959, you think the dealers ever did this in the shop? Have you heard of a bearing failure epidemic?
Better question here is lets talk about when we change the oil, do it on a hot engine, let it drain, then refill it and start it within an hour. Thats how a repair shop does it. Don't wait overnight or longer to refill and start it. And no cold oil changes.

Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/09/09 08:52 PM

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My intention was not to start such a heated debate.

Oh it'll get worse, just wait until some of the really earth shattering topics come up. You ain't seen nothing yet

Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/09/09 08:57 PM

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My intention was not to start such a heated debate.

Oh it'll get worse, just wait until some of the really earth shattering topics come up. You ain't seen nothing yet

yep , post a picture of a red dot , start a poll , is it RED or green ? 30% of the respondents will say its green they tell you are a moron for thinking it's not ...

Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/09/09 09:05 PM

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Not out to change anyones mind, just find it interesting. Kind of a sharing of experiences/practices/ideas. Oh wait thats Moparts!
I am surprised this thread has continued so long, and yea I am part of the reason--so are you John! Enjoy

that's fine as long as others WANT to hear what one has to say/thinks ...

and you post why?

Posted By: dOoC

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/09/09 09:14 PM

How about adding this to-the-mix ? ......

It depends on how much compression ratio the motor has. Also ...whether or not the motor is warm ...or was recently fired up.

I always fill the filter(as much as possible on the B-engine. But ALWAYS fill-it to-the-top on my Cummins 5.9.

Posted By: CYACOP

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/09/09 10:01 PM

If the oil left between the 2 surfaces is not enough to lubricate the parts when installing an empty filter, then you need to change oils.

Posted By: NANKET

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/10/09 12:01 AM

OK so filling the filter won't hurt anything, but it is unnecessary, What did they do in the 60's 70's ? Fill the filter and unplug the coil until oil pressure came up, nope.

You can find a piece of paper telling you to do just about anything. American Dental Association says to floss daily, have you flossed lately?

Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/10/09 12:10 AM

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OK so filling the filter won't hurt anything, but it is unnecessary, What did they do in the 60's 70's ? Fill the filter and unplug the coil until oil pressure came up, nope.

You can find a piece of paper telling you to do just about anything. American Dental Association says to floss daily, have you flossed lately?

So there is nothing benificial about flossing? Poor analogy.

Actually I re-thought that. Thats a great analogy if you're making the point that it is better to pre-oil your filters (even though many don't do it, like flossing)

Posted By: NANKET

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/10/09 12:31 AM

right, now someone gets it!

Posted By: GaryB

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/10/09 01:08 AM

I never thought about doing this but it sounds like a good idea. One thing I do do when I start the car in the spring is to turn it over to get some oil prssure before I fire it up.

Posted By: dave571

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/10/09 04:26 AM

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Mopar RB engines have been around since 1959, you think the dealers ever did this in the shop? Have you heard of a bearing failure epidemic?

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Add to this most reputable shops fill the filter before installing too.

They SAY they do.
It's what you want to hear right?

I'll go as far as to say I've NEVER worked in a disreputable place, and have worked in shops that work on very expensive machines....and the number of guys in the trade who do this is virtually non existant.

Do what you want to your car, but the simple fact that cars are out on the road, going 100's of thousands of miles without (or with ) doing this is proof it's a non issue

Posted By: tecmopar

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/10/09 09:18 AM

On a BB you'll be lucky to get it 1/4 filled. Take the filter and lay it on your bench and you'll see that the oil will drain right out of the outer row of holes.

Posted By: Rug_Trucker

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/10/09 06:03 PM

First time I changed the oil in my Cummins the filter had a lot of oil missing! Not anywhere close to the top of the filter

Wix too!

I top off my Purolators on all my motors, slants included. Swish them around and it soaks into the media. I don't know if mine have the stand pipes in them. PL30001

Posted By: Challenger 1

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/10/09 06:16 PM

I service, maintain and own 14 diesel engine trucks and they have huge filters on them and NO I don't pre fill any filters ever. I also change oil on 8 other passenger cars and trucks since 1981. I'm a oil change expert, can do one in minutes.

I've been to 3 Navistar factory engine schools and they warn you never to pre fill a filter because that oil or fuel won't be filtered upon fire up.

I've been changing oil since 1976 and have run millions of miles with out ever a engine failure, I'd say your wasting your time pre filling and maybe run the risk of damage to your engine doing it, according to International trucks.

Posted By: MoparforLife

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/10/09 06:16 PM

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On a BB you'll be lucky to get it 1/4 filled. Take the filter and lay it on your bench and you'll see that the oil will drain right out of the outer row of holes.

Boy are you slow installing the filter. Sure you will spill some but if you are quick it will be minimal and most will still be in the filer after you get it spun on.
I have seen air locked filers that were not prefilled but never seen one air lock that was prefilled and this is on big block engines too. Have also heard chirping on some engines that for one reason or another took a little longer than others to fill. There is a definite difference in the rate that pressure build with and without filling. have witnessed it time and again. do what you please it is your engine and your oil and you $$$. I will continue to prefill always have and always will on my own and did on customer vehicles when I worked at the dealership and this was back in the day.

Posted By: Rug_Trucker

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/10/09 06:47 PM

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I've been to 3 Navistar factory engine schools and they warn you never to pre fill a filter because that oil or fuel won't be filtered upon fire up.

The '81 Mack R686ST I used to drive wouldn't start no matter how long you cranked it. Filled the filter and it was instant!

I guess before putting and engine together you need to filter the oil before installing the pistons? I usually dip them in 50-50 oil and STP.

Posted By: Challenger 1

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/10/09 06:55 PM

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I've been to 3 Navistar factory engine schools and they warn you never to pre fill a filter because that oil or fuel won't be filtered upon fire up.

The '81 Mack R686ST I used to drive wouldn't start no matter how long you cranked it. Filled the filter and it was instant!

I guess before putting and engine together you need to filter the oil before installing the pistons? I usually dip them in 50-50 oil and STP.

I have built many engines and use 10w hydralic oil(aw32) on my sleeves and pistons. Heavy oil and stp is not helping the rings to seat and seal.

Posted By: RacerGofKGB

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/10/09 07:54 PM

I always prefill mine. I have never put much thought into it, its just the way my dad taught me when i was a kid. Put some oil around the rubber ring and fill it up with oil.

Posted By: CtownChris

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/10/09 08:09 PM

Sometimes I do and sometimes I don't.
I'll not worry about one way or the other.

Posted By: 71 FJ6 Charger

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/10/09 08:51 PM

quote]Man I cant wait till spring, I think we all need to go outside!

This reply says it all,...no other replies needed. That was good! But YES,most definately fill your filter.

Posted By: MoparMarq

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/11/09 01:04 AM

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I will raise the bar further...

Do you pre-oil that big dollar engine with an accusump before cold starting??

Accusump

And if he pre-oils it with Accusump, did he put new oil in the Accusump before cranking, thereby negating the purpose of the Accusump? Or did he NOT pre-oil the Accusump, thereby negating the purpose of changing the oil?!!!

Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/11/09 01:09 AM

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And if he pre-oils it with Accusump, did he put new oil in the Accusump before cranking, thereby negating the purpose of the Accusump? Or did he NOT pre-oil the Accusump, thereby negating the purpose of changing the oil?

could you repeat that (slower this time)

Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/11/09 01:11 AM

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On a BB you'll be lucky to get it 1/4 filled. Take the filter and lay it on your bench and you'll see that the oil will drain right out of the outer row of holes.

An antidrain back valve prevents oil from reversing out the outer row of holes. You DO have to make sure there is only little oil visable past the threaded hole-which is easy tip the filter and it drains through the media into the case. You can even do this on a slant 6 (leave no 'visable oil' if you're quick

Posted By: ahy

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/11/09 01:31 AM

On high pressure diesel fuel systems, pre-filling the filter is a proven way to introduce dirt. Not recommended. Lube oil systems aren't as sensitive but the same concept applies. Pre-fill is an opportunity to get dirt in the wrong place.

Posted By: Magnumguy

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/11/09 02:04 AM

Whenever it's possible to do it, I will.

Posted By: Challenger 1

Re: Do you fill your oil filters before installing? - 02/11/09 02:25 AM

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On high pressure diesel fuel systems, pre-filling the filter is a proven way to introduce dirt. Not recommended. Lube oil systems aren't as sensitive but the same concept applies. Pre-fill is an opportunity to get dirt in the wrong place.

Do you fill your oil filters before installing?