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Just got towed home.( UPDATE) #216667
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Beautiful day here in chicago.I started my car, let it idle for 15 minutes then took a 1 mile drive to the gas station.I filled up, drove about a block to a stop sign and the car died.Still had a strong cranking battery but no start.I`m thinking no spark.What would u try first?
UPDATE!!!!!!!!UPDATE!!!!!!!!!!
This morning i go to the garage.First thing i do is put the battery charger on ,it was run down from trying to start.I check to see if i have power on the ballast and coil both are good.My next move was going to check for spark.As i was about to check for spark the battery became charged so i figured i would just try to turn it over.Boom it fires up and roars like a lion.I let it idle about 10 minutes turned it off and restarted it about 5 times.Seems to be running great.?? I don`t know what to think.

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Re: Just got towed home. [Re: chicagotim2003] #216668
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What car, engine????


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Re: Just got towed home. [Re: CHRGR69] #216669
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Sorry about that. IT`s a 1973 challenger with 440 engine.

Re: Just got towed home. [Re: chicagotim2003] #216670
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Verify its getting spark and fuel. If it checks out OK there you might take a look at a sample of the fuel, or see if it will fire using starting fluid

Re: Just got towed home. [Re: chicagotim2003] #216671
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Been there done that with a 73 Challenger. Make sure the firewall main harness contacts are not corroded or fried. Then check the ECU box. What color is it?


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Re: Just got towed home. [Re: CHRGR69] #216672
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I had a extra ballast,coil and ecu.I put those on and nothing.The old ecu was an orange box.New ecu is a regular one.I can see gas squirt when i look down the carb.Next move??? And thanks for the help.

Re: Just got towed home. [Re: chicagotim2003] #216673
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Check for spark at the plugs.

Re: Just got towed home. [Re: chicagotim2003] #216674
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Spark??


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Re: Just got towed home. [Re: chicagotim2003] #216675
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Are you getting power at the ballast resistor when the key is in the RUN position???????? Check that now. The power for the ignition comes through the firewall (bulkhead) connection block and they are a common failure point on these cars at this age. I even bypassed mine with a separate wire (I don;t like to leave my car on the side of the road or be towed)

Re: Just got towed home. [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #216676
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filed up with diesel... dan

Re: Just got towed home. [Re: ph23vo] #216677
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Laughed out loud ph23.I just checked the ballast in run position and i had power going to all 4 terminals.Sorry guys i`m a carpenter not a mechanic.

Re: Just got towed home. [Re: chicagotim2003] #216678
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Have you pulled a spark plug wire and put an old plug in it and ground it to verify spark? Are you getting power to the coil? check the bulkhead connector? Things to start with that are free.

Re: Just got towed home. [Re: chicagotim2003] #216679
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Ok. with the key turned on jump the starter relay to make it crank and see if it starts. There are 2 start circuits one for run and one for start. It's possible to have fire in the run but not start modes.

Re: Just got towed home. [Re: stumpy] #216680
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Been there, done that. Ballast resistor. OOOPS! I missed the part about replacing the ballast. Never mind.

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Re: Just got towed home. [Re: stumpy] #216681
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Reluctor gap?

Re: Just got towed home. [Re: ph23vo] #216682
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filed up with diesel... dan




First thing I would check. Kim

Re: Just got towed home. [Re: chicagotim2003] #216683
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I had a similar thing happen to my 64 Polara last summer waiting on the road to get into a cruise-in. Car started running a little rough like it was fouling a plug then died. Restarted long enough to get if off the road then died again. My buddy came over and we checked what we could on the roadside, but had to have it towed home. Turned out to be a bad coil (3 month old Accel). Replaced it and everything was fine. Advance stood behind the coil, but of course, did nothing about the $55 tow bill! That's hotroddin', right??


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Re: Just got towed home. [Re: last426] #216684
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filed up with diesel... dan




First thing I would check. Kim




As stupid as it sounds, a few months ago a friend did just that in his old 'stang.

Re: Just got towed home. [Re: chicagotim2003] #216685
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Monee IL??? Huh. I was at Mom's house there, earlier today. PM sent.

Re: Just got towed home. [Re: chicagotim2003] #216686
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pull the dist cap and spin the motor to make sure the rotor turn if not you have timing chain problem. I had that problem till I decide to pull cap spun the motor rotor didn't move just jiggle sooo I pull the timing cover and saw the cam bolt came lose!

Re: Just got towed home. [Re: BigTerry] #216687
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Just for shits and grins hook up another ECU. Make sure it has a good ground. I've had them go out just from sitting. Not having them grounded will cause them to go out.

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Update in first post. Thanks for the help. Moparts is the best .

Re: Just got towed home. [Re: chicagotim2003] #216689
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By any chance does the car still have the factory choke setup on it?


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Re: Just got towed home.( UPDATE) [Re: chicagotim2003] #216690
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Beautiful day here in chicago.I started my car, let it idle for 15 minutes then took a 1 mile drive to the gas station.I filled up, drove about a block to a stop sign and the car died.Still had a strong cranking battery but no start.I`m thinking no spark.What would u try first?
UPDATE!!!!!!!!UPDATE!!!!!!!!!!
This morning i go to the garage.First thing i do is put the battery charger on ,it was run down from trying to start.I check to see if i have power on the ballast and coil both are good.My next move was going to check for spark.As i was about to check for spark the battery became charged so i figured i would just try to turn it over.Boom it fires up and roars like a lion.I let it idle about 10 minutes turned it off and restarted it about 5 times.Seems to be running great.?? I don`t know what to think.





How old is the coil? It could be bad

Re: Just got towed home.( UPDATE) [Re: chicagotim2003] #216691
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Happened to me. Same thing. The person I bought the car from had mounted a ACCEL coil on the inner fender. So he had to lengthen the wires. He just twisted them and taped them over. The connection got so bad that it would not run the engine, but it showed voltage at the coil. Low amp's . I soldered the connection (after finding it because it was in the loom) and have not had a problem since. Good luck.
Ray

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Went threw the same crap with my 73 check the ignition switch wire near the base of the steering col bet you find a fried wire red 10 gauge or there abouts. I also had a broken wire up in the main harness push the wire up car started let it down it quit. Usually happened like this after sitting for several weeks

Re: Just got towed home.( UPDATE) [Re: chicagotim2003] #216693
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I agree with the coil problem..I had installed a new coil, and after about a week I was stranded on the side of the road. put another coil on, and it never happened again..I remember reading a post about how the coil heated up when the engine warmed up and somehow shut down..FYI..

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