Re: 340 compression test results. What would you do?
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09/10/16 06:49 PM
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If it's going to be apart already why not just dingleball hone and re-ring at the same time as the re-gasket?
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Re: 340 compression test results. What would you do?
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09/10/16 07:57 PM
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Re: 340 compression test results. What would you do?
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09/11/16 02:55 PM
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it's the numbers matching engine that appears to be all original. It does run real good. keep it running (downtime is a frequent trap) plus all OE not rebuilt is a huge plus. keep driving it, it runs fine & build a 408 in your spare time & drop it in & have fun & if you ever decide to sell it you can drop the OE eng back in & assuming it still runs fine (your numbers ain't that bad)/all OE/not rebuilt which are all good selling points ($$$).
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Re: 340 compression test results. What would you do?
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09/13/16 03:47 PM
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Even though it goes against all of our Puritan beliefs, the first thing to do is to run it hard for 100 miles or so. If you want to add Seafoam or Techron that'd be okay too. It is possible that carbon deposits are keeping the valves from seating. Running it hard with plenty of full-throttle charges should clean out most anything.
Then with engine fully warmed up, run it at say 2000rpm and trickle water down the carburetor. Be prepared for clouds of dirty steam. I try to do it in out of the way places where neighbors won't complain.
R. Some of these posts seem to be ignoring the fact that adding oil to the low cylinders for a retest did in fact result in significantly better numbers and therefore indicating a ring sealing issue, not heads. I am wondering about smoke and oil consumption. If acceptable then I would be REALLY tempted to 'just run it'.
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Re: 340 compression test results. What would you do?
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09/13/16 05:33 PM
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I vote for good old "motor honey" to help increase the compression on 2/4/6. SeaFoam does not contain any ingredient to "build up" on your rings/cylinders, so that won't help anything.
I had a similar situation MANY years ago with a 383. I "dingle-ball" honed & re-ringed 3 cylinders and put it back together. I'm not sure if the angle is right, but can you get a look at the cylinder "ridge" with a boroscope through the spark plug hole on a small block? I just bought a boroscope for $25.
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Re: 340 compression test results. What would you do?
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09/13/16 10:51 PM
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my first question is what do you want from this engine? are you going to race this thing for max et? or you just want a good running engine that sounds cool? if you are happy with the way it runs and its performance use it as is. if its not strong enough for you rebuild it. Keep it simple
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Re: 340 compression test results. What would you do?
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09/14/16 11:10 AM
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Bad ring seal can come from worn rings, but it can also occur when the rings are not free conform to the cylinder walls due to carbon build up in the grooves.
Since you got improved results on the three low cylinders by adding oil to improve the ring seal, and considering the age of the engine, you might have rings in those cylinders that are not functioning right due to carbon build up.
It might be worth trying to decarbonize one of those 3 cylinders by removing the sparkplug, draining the oil pan, and continuously pumping a solvent like "Yamaha Ringfree" or "Chevron Techron Concentrate Plus" down through the sparkplug hole and out through the oil pan drain to a catch pan where an electric fuel pump would re pump it up to the sparkplug hole again. 8 to 24 hours would be typical times.
Before restarting the engine, add some high quality synthetic oil into the decarbonized cylinder, and turn the engine over by hand to recoat the cylinder walls and rings.
If you are worried about using a decarbonizing fluid in an old and valuable engine, you can also just pump a very light engine oil like fresh Mobil One synthetic 0W-20, But do it longer, 24 to 72 hours, and turn the engine over by hand often.
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Re: 340 compression test results. What would you do?
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09/14/16 11:13 AM
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Marvel Mystery Oil works pretty good freeing up stuck rings as well.
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