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Re: no love for the truck V10 [Re: momopar] #2132753
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Loved my '03 QC sb 2wd. up Towed my 5th wheel just as well as my CTD does. Only problem is the CTD gets better fuel mileage towing the 5er than the V10 did empty. wink biggrin


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Re: no love for the truck V10 [Re: momopar] #2133192
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Boost has been done Momopar, there is a video on Youtube of a guy that put a turbo V10 in a First Gen.

Poor quality video but you sure get the idea. Even 4 or 6 pounds to stay on the safe side would get the torque to 600.


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Re: no love for the truck V10 [Re: Grizzly] #2133291
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Yes, saw that one.

Info for the iron v10 is few and far between.
I talked to a tuner a few times about boost and running e85. He was pretty cold about it and steered me towards someone local? There is NO one local and only two nationally that deal with tuning the factory ecm (found in my research)

Guess I be on my own.

I do remember researching back in '95 and for '96 the Cummins was rated more torque with the stick than the auto? v10 same, same auto vs stick?


HMMM 300 HP was good back then, best HP for a gas truck engine at the time? Now the Pentastar v6 has more ha,ha!

Re: no love for the truck V10 [Re: momopar] #2133293
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Anyone know of an easy way to raise the REV limiter?
That has been my biggest biotch about the truck.

That dude fallin' on its face at 4800 has nearly cost me in the past, especially when passing pulling a load.

That old iron pig should be able to rev 6000 on occasion for short spurts eh?

Re: no love for the truck V10 [Re: momopar] #2133326
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SCT tuner has a tune to raise it 1000rpm

Re: no love for the truck V10 [Re: momopar] #2133336
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One tidbit i remember is that the 8.4 compression ration 8L iron V10 in high GCWR HD Ram pickups had its own Champion heat range 9 sparkplug, whereas the 5.2/5.9 V8s had Champion heat range 14 plugs.

I called the Champion sparkplug 800 number on a whim and asked why this was, and was told

"The 5.2/5.9 Magnum V8s need heat range 9 too,
But the lower GCWR half ton pickups have to meet tighter EPA emission controls,
so they have to have a heat range 14 Champion spark plug
so that they will miss fire less on a totally cold startup
and have less HC and CO emissions
in the first three minutes of running at less than full operating temperature"

Re: no love for the truck V10 [Re: momopar] #2133742
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YUP!

I use the proper plug.

Tried Bosch NGK and Autolite and the Champions do best.


I looked into an SCT. he wasn't real perceptive on a 6000 RPM limit?


YIKES!

The old dawg will do 120+ now hitting the 4800 rev limiter,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,in fourth!

Re: no love for the truck V10 [Re: momopar] #2135661
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We just finished a 1600+ mile trip pulling my 28 foot enclosed car trailer with my V-10 1999 Ram 2500.

The truck pulled great, the 8 mpg kinda sucked. laugh2


Kayse can't keep up at all now. lol
Re: no love for the truck V10 [Re: SNK-EYZ] #2138358
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Originally the 8.0L made 350 hp / 450 ft lbs of torque.Same parts as engine was built with.Production was 300 hp/415 lbs ft IIRC. Cal was changed to satisfy the trans group.Pulled the advance out of the cal (good-bye mileage). Later a dual throttle body version was tested but not built (350 hp/500 ft lbs of torque). Mopar Perf claimed a fifty or more hp gain with a cam they listed in the MP catalog for a while.

Engine had an issue with oil drain back (cyl hd design issue) and crank windage. Above 4400 the engine badly needed a different (deeper) oil pan with a tray as stock pan was very close to crank.Serious oil pressure problems killed the hp (peak hp was @ 4800) version. It was on schd for 2004. Powers to be decided it wasn't needed as the 5.7L was ready.


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Re: no love for the truck V10 [Re: momopar] #2139169
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6-7 pound of boost and a tuner to put the rev limiter at ~ 5800 seems like the way to go?

300/450 was the specs for '96 both auto and manual.

Funny the Diesel of that year the stick had more torque by a fair amount?

(detuned for the slushbox?)

Like said "no love for the iron v10"

20 years I have looked and found little to nothing on the old 10. Kind of a shame since I plan on keeping mine forever.

I can put lots O' gas in her compared to the cost associated with a new truck. (and I no longer have to worry about door dings scratches hauling stuff etc)

Re: no love for the truck V10 [Re: momopar] #2144116
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Someone on here worked and saw what ever (R&D) on the iron v10?

I would be tickled to find a Mopar performance computer for a '96!

At least it wouldn't puke at 4850 RPM (damitalltohell)

Re: no love for the truck V10 [Re: momopar] #2146845
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All this V10 talk made me dig out the Magnum book. The firing order is r-l-r-l-r-l-r-l-r-l which would require a flat plane crank for a V-8. Sure would suck to replace the oil pump though.

Wonder how hard a PCM would be to find, and there were headers and catback exhaust packages.

Anyone willing to make a cam? Maybe start with a Viper blank for a custom grind?

Pretty cool torque motors, no wonder the farmer was puzzled by the 3.55 choice. My Dad figured 4.10s in a work truck was for city slickers and dude ranchers, lol.

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Comp used to list a couple cams and Crower makes some for the iron v10 too.

My best approach still seems to be a turbo and perhaps a couple 'piggyback" injectors running off a WOT micro or some kind of boost signal?

Me thinks the timing is retarded enough to get away with 6-8 pounds of boost without too much trouble?

e85 to the piggybacks?

Re: no love for the truck V10 [Re: momopar] #2147279
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cam and programmer to raise limiter is cheaper but wont give u the power of turbo.sct tuner woke mine up

Re: no love for the truck V10 [Re: momopar] #2147290
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"Necessity is the Mother of all inventions"?

Talked to the best SCT guy out there and he seemed pretty cold at the whole Idea?

I have read the Mopar ECM raised the rev limiter? (but also bumped timing requiring premium)

Been looking on the bag and only find stock ones?

Mine is a stick and always ran alot better than my buds auto of the same year? He always thought my ECM was tuned better? Probably not, just no torque control needed with the stick ECM.

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i got an auto all power in at 3000 rpm.with premium gas tune it pulls to a little over 5000 rpms am happy with power in stock form cause the trannsmission was built with shift kit that made a big difference.look up hemifever tuning,

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I might have to shoot him another email.

He has some tunes for the iron v10 and also has an all out one he made up for a puller.

I started talkin' turbo/e85 and he thought I would be better served with a "local" Guy (gal).

Straight up dude, can't blame him,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Only,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

There is NO one local?

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Originally Posted By momopar
"Necessity is the Mother of all inventions"?

Talked to the best SCT guy out there and he seemed pretty cold at the whole Idea?

I have read the Mopar ECM raised the rev limiter? (but also bumped timing requiring premium)

Been looking on the bag and only find stock ones?

Mine is a stick and always ran alot better than my buds auto of the same year? He always thought my ECM was tuned better? Probably not, just no torque control needed with the stick ECM.


The 5.9 PCMs always disabled the limiter, and required premium. I'd imagine the V-10 ones did too.

"Pulled the advance out of the cal (good-bye mileage)."

Later it was done for some reason on the V-8s. The Dakota RT community trembled at the thought of "the death flash"

Re: no love for the truck V10 [Re: momopar] #2147904
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Short term I'll probably drop the dime on an SCT.

I emailed Sean a few times and he has some interesting tunes. Like said he seems to be a straight up (real mopar guy) and aint no cash snaggin' salesman fo' sure!

There is just so little out there on the old iron pig that I thought someone out there (in the moparts world) has seen something I missed in all the research?

Like said earlier "take the turbo off any of the big three diesels and they would be pretty pitiful eh?

Long term I am going to engineer a boost system for the old low compression pig.

May give me a reason to post my first youtube?

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Originally Posted By A990
All this V10 talk made me dig out the Magnum book. The firing order is r-l-r-l-r-l-r-l-r-l which would require a flat plane crank for a V-8. Sure would suck to replace the oil pump though.

Wonder how hard a PCM would be to find, and there were headers and catback exhaust packages.

Anyone willing to make a cam? Maybe start with a Viper blank for a custom grind?

Pretty cool torque motors, no wonder the farmer was puzzled by the 3.55 choice. My Dad figured 4.10s in a work truck was for city slickers and dude ranchers, lol.


YUP your Dad and ole Dell would really snicker at the effective gear with 33s on her now.

figures out to 3.23.

Gotta admit you can feel her labor a little stop and go with the new meats, but she sings right along on the interstates.

Running 75 (by the speedo a bit over 2000) she doesn't get passed often?

If you ever drove through NE Indiana NW Ohio you would know there is not even a 100 foot elevation change in 100 miles!

If hills are encountered the old torque is a plenty in 4th gear. (even with an effective 3.23:1)

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