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DROP IN ROLLER LIFTER SB #214541 02/05/09 03:03 AM 02/05/09 03:03 AM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 301 central Pa. 7 71Pan OP enthusiast
71Pan OP enthusiast 7 Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 301 central Pa.	I need some opions on best drop in solid roller lifter sb.No bushing of block and min. clearencing

Re: DROP IN ROLLER LIFTER SB [Re: 71Pan] #214542 02/05/09 06:44 AM 02/05/09 06:44 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 21,345 Marysville, O-H-I-O 70Cuda383 Too Many Posts
70Cuda383 Too Many Posts Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 21,345 Marysville, O-H-I-O	why not factory rollers? late model trucks with the 5.2s and 5.9s had roller lifters stock. Photobucket sucks

Re: DROP IN ROLLER LIFTER SB [Re: 71Pan] #214543 02/05/09 06:45 AM 02/05/09 06:45 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 21,345 Marysville, O-H-I-O 70Cuda383 Too Many Posts
70Cuda383 Too Many Posts Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 21,345 Marysville, O-H-I-O	Quote: I need some opions on best drop in SOLID roller lifter sb.No bushing of block and min. clearencing oops! nevermind. I missed that part! Photobucket sucks

Re: DROP IN ROLLER LIFTER SB [Re: 70Cuda383] #214544 02/05/09 09:13 AM 02/05/09 09:13 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,123 Grand Haven, MI patrick I Live Here
patrick I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,123 Grand Haven, MI	Quote: why not factory rollers? late model trucks with the 5.2s and 5.9s had roller lifters stock. stock roller lifters won't work in older blocks. contact board member OU812. he has some nice ones from comp cams that aren't in their catalog yet. 1976 Spinnaker White Plymouth Duster, /6 A833OD 1986 Silver/Twilight Blue Chrysler 5th Ave HotRod SOLD!* 2011 Toxic Orange Dodge Charger R/T 2017 Grand Cherokee Overland 2014 Jeep Cherokee Latitude (holy crap, my daughter is driving)

Re: DROP IN ROLLER LIFTER SB [Re: patrick] #214545 02/05/09 10:39 AM 02/05/09 10:39 AM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 3,333 MARYLAND 69Cuda340S master
69Cuda340S master Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 3,333 MARYLAND	Quote: stock roller lifters won't work in older blocks. contact board member OU812. he has some nice ones from comp cams that aren't in their catalog yet. I believe the ones Brian (ou812) sells are retrofit solid roller lifters? His are nice because the link bar is toward the center of the engine so no grinding on the block needed.

Re: DROP IN ROLLER LIFTER SB [Re: 70Cuda383] #214546 02/05/09 10:40 AM 02/05/09 10:40 AM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 293 Michigan C ccarson enthusiast
ccarson enthusiast C Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 293 Michigan	Contact Best Machine they can hook you up with the correct part from Comp, and yes they are not in the the comp catalog yet

Re: DROP IN ROLLER LIFTER SB [Re: 71Pan] #214547 02/05/09 10:40 AM 02/05/09 10:40 AM
Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 32 Brunswick Ohio D dusta340 member
dusta340 member D Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 32 Brunswick Ohio	Quote: I need some opions on best drop in solid roller lifter sb.No bushing of block and min. clearencing you will have to grind on the lock a little. but i used a comp solid body roller lifter no bushing no bs i ran it for 2 years no problems. if you want i can get you part numbers for the lifters i used

Re: DROP IN ROLLER LIFTER SB [Re: dusta340] #214548 02/05/09 10:54 AM 02/05/09 10:54 AM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,595 On the south side of Nowhere S S/ST 3040 master
S/ST 3040 master S Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,595 On the south side of Nowhere	Quote: Quote: I need some opions on best drop in solid roller lifter sb.No bushing of block and min. clearencing you will have to grind on the lock a little. but i used a comp solid body roller lifter no bushing no bs i ran it for 2 years no problems. if you want i can get you part numbers for the lifters i used The lifters he's referring to, have the link bar to the inside.......away from the block.I doubt if they require clearancing at all. Uncovering the oil galley, is a whole different problem. Running smaller lift lobes with higher rockers would remedy this but, high ratio rocker arms for SB Mopars is big $$$$. The last 2 blocks I had bushed cost me $511.00 apiece.

Re: DROP IN ROLLER LIFTER SB [Re: S/ST 3040] #214549 02/05/09 11:01 AM 02/05/09 11:01 AM
Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 32 Brunswick Ohio D dusta340 member
dusta340 member D Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 32 Brunswick Ohio	the tie bar goes torwards the head and you do have to grind. if you put the tie bar on torwards the inside of the block it will hit the push rod. i ran .673 lift cam with a 1.6 rocker no problems no need to bush the block. unless you go nuts with the lift it should not uncover the oil passage.

Re: DROP IN ROLLER LIFTER SB [Re: dusta340] #214550 02/05/09 11:08 AM 02/05/09 11:08 AM
Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 32 Brunswick Ohio D dusta340 member
dusta340 member D Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 32 Brunswick Ohio	pics of the lifters i used 5002599-DSC00228.JPG (84 downloads)

Re: DROP IN ROLLER LIFTER SB [Re: dusta340] #214551 02/05/09 11:09 AM 02/05/09 11:09 AM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,595 On the south side of Nowhere S S/ST 3040 master
S/ST 3040 master S Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,595 On the south side of Nowhere	The amount of lobe lift you can run depends on where the oil galley intersects the lifter bores, base circle of the cam and style of lifter. Galley to lifter bore varies greatly, block to block so xxx lobe lift with xxx lifter is not going to consistantly work on every block. Like most fun things about building engines.......you have to check first.

Re: DROP IN ROLLER LIFTER SB [Re: dusta340] #214552 02/05/09 11:11 AM 02/05/09 11:11 AM
Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 32 Brunswick Ohio D dusta340 member
dusta340 member D Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 32 Brunswick Ohio	they are a 828-16 comp part number

Re: DROP IN ROLLER LIFTER SB [Re: dusta340] #214553 02/05/09 12:13 PM 02/05/09 12:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,982 Ansonia, CT C CJK440 master
CJK440 master C Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,982 Ansonia, CT	Quote: they are a 828-16 comp part number Will Comp use the same part number and just change design or will the new lifters be a different P/N?? 2017 Contusion Blue Challenger T/A 392 M6 "BLKNBLU"

Re: DROP IN ROLLER LIFTER SB [Re: CJK440] #214554 02/05/09 12:48 PM 02/05/09 12:48 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,675 Columbia, CT M moper I Live Here
moper I Live Here M Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,675 Columbia, CT	The 828-16s are the old number. I dont think they superceded. Check with Brian, he actually helped them deveolp them as I understand it. In any event, I don't run a solid roller lifter without bushings. Ever. Well, art is art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water! And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now, uh... Now you tell me what you know.

Re: DROP IN ROLLER LIFTER SB [Re: dusta340] #214555 02/05/09 12:55 PM 02/05/09 12:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,021 Tulsa OK Bad340fish master
Bad340fish master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,021 Tulsa OK	Quote: they are a 828-16 comp part number My 828-16s opened the oil passage with my cam which is .430 cam lift. It wasn't just barely either it opened them up alot. Block is getting tubed at the machine shop right now. I love putting motors together then taking them back apart . 68 Barracuda Formula S 340

Re: DROP IN ROLLER LIFTER SB [Re: moper] #214556 02/05/09 12:56 PM 02/05/09 12:56 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 637 Sao Paulo, Brazil dart_73_br mopar
dart_73_br mopar Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 637 Sao Paulo, Brazil	And about the gains of using a roller cam ? Could you guess something ?

Re: DROP IN ROLLER LIFTER SB [Re: 71Pan] #214557 02/05/09 03:57 PM 02/05/09 03:57 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 205 ohio prochamp enthusiast
prochamp enthusiast Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 205 ohio	doug herbert sells drop in rollers for about half the cost of the comps.part#hertev.

Re: DROP IN ROLLER LIFTER SB [Re: prochamp] #214558 02/05/09 06:08 PM 02/05/09 06:08 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 541 South Carolina A a408swinger mopar addict
a408swinger mopar addict A Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 541 South Carolina	Quote: doug herbert sells drop in rollers for about half the cost of the comps.part#hertev. Those are what I run as well. $219.00 a set and no grinding and no bushing or tubing. Just drop them in with the link bar toward the sides of the of the lifter valley (backwards) and thats it. Ive been running mine on the street and at the track on a car that runs 10.30's on motor and 9.20's on spray with no issues. Good products.

Re: DROP IN ROLLER LIFTER SB [Re: a408swinger] #214559 02/06/09 01:05 AM 02/06/09 01:05 AM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 301 central Pa. 7 71Pan OP enthusiast
71Pan OP enthusiast 7 Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 301 central Pa.	Buying herberts Thanx

Re: DROP IN ROLLER LIFTER SB [Re: a408swinger] #214560 02/06/09 02:14 AM 02/06/09 02:14 AM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 12,271 Overpriced Housing Central RobX4406 I Live Here
RobX4406 I Live Here Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 12,271 Overpriced Housing Central	Quote: Quote: doug herbert sells drop in rollers for about half the cost of the comps.part#hertev. Those are what I run as well. $219.00 a set and no grinding and no bushing or tubing. Just drop them in with the link bar toward the sides of the of the lifter valley (backwards) and thats it. Ive been running mine on the street and at the track on a car that runs 10.30's on motor and 9.20's on spray with no issues. Good products. I think they recently jumped to about 265 at Doug Herbert, IIRC. I think Chet Herbert still has them listed at $218.

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