Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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08/05/16 01:17 PM
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FWIW and this helps no one. But word on the street is he HAD to switch casting vendors because the state of California Environmental folks basically shut them down. Well made it so it would not be cost affective to comply with their regulations anyway. This happened awhile back I hear. Not making any excuses for sure, just sharing info. Also hear that the Koleno deal was stuck in the water due to loosing the equipment to machine the rough castings was "lost" to a big name vendor who decided to keep it. Same issue with Bill Mitchel, casting and machining issues. I do see Indy acted accordingly and has raised its prices to help If that were only the case!!!!
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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block
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08/05/16 01:24 PM
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Oh I know there are other issues as well. Just stating that is one reason of many for the issues getting them. I know about some of the machining issues as well. Just sold a Megalblock to a guy who has a heck of a story about two block makers. There is no excuse for not staying in communication with customers for sure. I for one just like to be told how long something will take with honesty and integrity. Two things that seem to be long gone in todays society
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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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08/05/16 02:34 PM
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Oh I know there are other issues as well. Just stating that is one reason of many for the issues getting them. I know about some of the machining issues as well. Just sold a Megalblock to a guy who has a heck of a story about two block makers. There is no excuse for not staying in communication with customers for sure. I for one just like to be told how long something will take with honesty and integrity. Two things that seem to be long gone in todays society If I may add one more thing to that list Al. COMMUNICATION. We carry cell phones with use all day long and it's becoming a lost art.
1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27
Livin and lovin life one day at a time
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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block
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08/05/16 04:26 PM
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Oh I know there are other issues as well. Just stating that is one reason of many for the issues getting them. I know about some of the machining issues as well. Just sold a Megalblock to a guy who has a heck of a story about two block makers. There is no excuse for not staying in communication with customers for sure. I for one just like to be told how long something will take with honesty and integrity. Two things that seem to be long gone in todays society If I may add one more thing to that list Al. COMMUNICATION. We carry cell phones with use all day long and it's becoming a lost art. THIS............I keep in contact w/all of those that need me to and always will..............
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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block
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08/05/16 06:43 PM
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Oh I know there are other issues as well. Just stating that is one reason of many for the issues getting them. I know about some of the machining issues as well. Just sold a Megalblock to a guy who has a heck of a story about two block makers. There is no excuse for not staying in communication with customers for sure. I for one just like to be told how long something will take with honesty and integrity. Two things that seem to be long gone in todays society If I may add one more thing to that list Al. COMMUNICATION. We carry cell phones with use all day long and it's becoming a lost art. THIS............I keep in contact w/all of those that need me to and always will.............. And that is probably a big reason why your business is growing and becoming more popular. And for that I congratulate you on learning so quickly that no one wants to hear a constant busy phone signal our an unanswered phone call
1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27
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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block
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08/15/16 02:55 PM
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Ken did finally call me. Not sure if it's good news or bad news but at least I got called.
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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block
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08/16/16 01:41 AM
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I ordered a raised cam water block from KB 30 months ago. I paid the required 50% down, and last December he hit my card for final payment. Yep, you guessed correctly, no block yet. Just more excuses. First it was main studs, then sleeves, and back to main studs. Just more excuses. I'm telling you, book a flight, and bring bail money. I'm fixing to pay him a visit myself and I don't plan on leaving with my block and what else it takes to make it right.
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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block
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08/16/16 11:07 AM
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I ordered a raised cam water block from KB 30 months ago. I paid the required 50% down, and last December he hit my card for final payment. Yep, you guessed correctly, no block yet. Just more excuses. First it was main studs, then sleeves, and back to main studs. Just more excuses. I'm telling you, book a flight, and bring bail money. I'm fixing to pay him a visit myself and I don't plan on leaving with my block and what else it takes to make it right. 30 months! Holy crap. I thought I was the longest at 21 months.
1967 Coronet, 1989 Daytona tube chassis.
Former cars, 66 Charger, 67 R/T, 69 Coronet, 67 Dart GT.
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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block
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08/16/16 07:48 PM
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Has anyone actually received a block from Ken Black in the last 12 months? Or how about 18 months? How can this company stay in business? I know FHO has but they have been very hard to come by
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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block
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08/16/16 09:58 PM
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Has anyone actually received a block from Ken Black in the last 12 months? Or how about 18 months? How can this company stay in business? I have. I got my block in Jan this year. I waited over 17 months. (18 would have been the most i would have waited before demanding my money back). After getting it we are pleased with it.Everything checked spot on(except for a very small variance on the deck heights from side to side. My engine is now almost done and it should be on the dyno in the next few weeks.
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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block
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08/17/16 12:10 PM
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Nice looking mill..Be interested to see how that intake works on the dyno...
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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block
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08/17/16 12:29 PM
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I'm surprised to see the "mopar" insignia cast into the block. Were they always like that? I thought they just had "Keith Black" cast into them.
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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block
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08/17/16 12:36 PM
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Al_Alguire
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Mine have the Mopar in them
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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block
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08/17/16 01:01 PM
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So, if I'm the guys that have been waiting 30 months and 21 months, and hear someone else got theirs recently after only waiting 17 months I've got to be wondering how many other people got blocks "in front of" theirs. When the lead time is as insanely long as it is for these things you'd like to think it's first deposit/first block. I'm curious, do TAD and TAFC guys use this style block? Pro Mod?
Im just wondering if there are long time repeat customers for these blocks that just can't/won't wait that long to get one, and that's where the bulk of the blocks go, and the bracket guys get their orders filled as time and "spare" blocks permit.
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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block
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08/17/16 01:09 PM
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So, if I'm the guys that have been waiting 30 months and 21 months, and hear someone else got theirs recently after only waiting 17 months I've got to be wondering how many other people got blocks "in front of" theirs. When the lead time is as insanely long as it is for these things you'd like to think it's first deposit/first block. I'm curious, do TAD and TAFC guys use this style block? Pro Mod?
Im just wondering if there are long time repeat customers for these blocks that just can't/won't wait that long to get one, and that's where the bulk of the blocks go, and the bracket guys get their orders filled as time and "spare" blocks permit. I believe the TAD and FC guys use solid blocks(no water) so that MIGHT be the difference if you get put in the front of the line... and I would assume they order a few blocks at a time(just a guess) EDIT But that still doesnt make it right to have to wait 30 months for a block... I'm thinking there is other issues.. maybe casting companies are getting pushed out of business from places like EPA.. maybe sooner or later it will be all done off shores Like the chrome shops... they were pushed out due to EPA
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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block
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08/17/16 04:47 PM
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I'm surprised to see the "mopar" insignia cast into the block. Were they always like that? I thought they just had "Keith Black" cast into them. There's even a mopar part number on it. I believe they were sold through mopar performance at one time.
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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block
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08/17/16 04:52 PM
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So, if I'm the guys that have been waiting 30 months and 21 months, and hear someone else got theirs recently after only waiting 17 months I've got to be wondering how many other people got blocks "in front of" theirs. When the lead time is as insanely long as it is for these things you'd like to think it's first deposit/first block. I'm curious, do TAD and TAFC guys use this style block? Pro Mod?
Im just wondering if there are long time repeat customers for these blocks that just can't/won't wait that long to get one, and that's where the bulk of the blocks go, and the bracket guys get their orders filled as time and "spare" blocks permit. Mine's a low deck block which could explain the time line difference. I think I remember him complaining of some porosity issues with the tall deck blocks. But I agree it doesn't seem right.
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